I'm sure something slightly heavier could be used - or used to fill the cups... I'd prefer something a little larger.
Maybe start on a slightly less contested bike lane? See if it can work first?
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Quality Bike Corridor Fish Shooting
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Posted 11 years ago #
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Cups, upside down, weighted with stones (the example I saw glued them to the road :-/ )
"I'd prefer something a little larger"
Ah but see, that was the whole point of the exercise - it was showing that something as small and seemingly insignificant as a paper cup painted red could actually lead to the enforcement of cycle lanes. Using something larger reinforces the opinion that you need something quite imposing (and expensive) to segregate, whereas segregation can be beautifully simple (in many places in Paris it's simply a rumble strip rather than an actual kerb, and it works).
Posted 11 years ago # -
Paper cups filled with quick setting cement might work. Would be semi-permanent! Need a cargo trailer to transport the beggars on site, mind.
Posted 11 years ago # -
Only needs about 20 at most. Box mounted on back of t'bike. I think I'm going to give this a proper go next week. I'll report on the results!
Posted 11 years ago # -
that was the whole point of the exercise - it was showing that something as small and seemingly insignificant as a paper cup painted red could actually lead to the enforcement of cycle lanes.
Gotcha. Makes sense :)
in many places in Paris it's simply a rumble strip rather than an actual kerb, and it works
Yeah, I've often thought that if the bike lane was made of a truly different material (e.g. nicely set bricks or something like that [would have to think of something that doesn't become pot-holed/slippery]) it would really deter cars entering it - would feel like going on the pavement. The rumble strip or similar is a good idea too. I'd want the bike lanes a bit wider if it went that way as leaving the bike lane would have more cost - also it might make cars detour around you even less?
Posted 11 years ago # -
Like I say though, I've not got much faith in Edinburgh drivers - reckon they'll just drive over them!
Posted 11 years ago # -
I have been tempted by the idea of parking bikes on the QBC so that motorists can't park in it illegally (perverse though the idea is). You wouldn't need many riders to block off the bottom of Ratcliffe terrace, a few more to manage the supermarket though.
Posted 11 years ago # -
Dave - I was thinking the same thing - we could do a bit of a "sit in" - demonstrate that it's ridiculous how many people stop in those lanes.
Posted 11 years ago # -
A rush hour 'bike-in' would be 'interesting'. First cyclist with a black eye from an outraged van driver wins!
Posted 11 years ago # -
How about a proper china teaset?
Posted 11 years ago # -
Paper cups filled with quick setting cement might work. Would be semi-permanent!
I think they're called micro-bollards. :)
Be sure to adopt the proper Cycling by Design standards for lane width.
Posted 11 years ago # -
Was going to suggest alternating red and white cups (looks more official that way) but I like Kaputnik's teaset idea. Or for a more macabre touch, dolls or even teddy bears...
Posted 11 years ago # -
The divider in this Sofia cycle lane is not much more than a rubber rumble strip, albeit with some rubberised mini-bollards/spikes which would likely damage even a 4x4's undercarriage...
Posted 11 years ago # -
"I realise I tweet a lot about the ‘Quality Bike Corridor’ in Edinburgh. Mostly because I use it and it’s rubbish. Anyone interested in working on a ‘hyper local’ campaign? DMs open!"
Posted 6 years ago # -
I walked along Causewayside earlier, and stopped at a few of my "favourite" spots to record videos to see just how many drivers enter the bike lane. It was dark, so my videos aren't great, but at the Relugas Road junction, at the bottom of Ratcliffe Terrace (where the bike lane swings out) and at the top of Ratcliffe Terrace (where the bike lane returns to the kerb), the fractions of drivers blatantly entering the bike lane were at least 30, 50 and 40% respectively. Those are incredibly conservative estimates, due to my camera not being great in the dark. True figures could well be 80 or 90%.
I'll need to do this again in daylight.
Posted 6 years ago # -
Ratcliffe Terrace should see an intervention from Protection not Paint.
As things stand it resembles a lorry park for the post-Brexit customs regime.
Posted 6 years ago # -
Went past the Relugas junction again this morning.
I watched 66 drivers go past; 42 of them cut the corner by driving through the bike lane.
Posted 6 years ago # -
At a conservative estimate, 40% of drivers were also leaving less than a 2s gap to the driver in front. Goes up to 60% if you exclude those who were at the front of the queue at the traffic lights.
Posted 6 years ago # -
As a first step to a campaign to segregate this route (or filter it to eliminate through-traffic), here's a petition to get signing.
Posted 4 years ago # -
Tried to sign it, think i did
Posted 4 years ago # -
I'm not sure I can bring myself to sign this, despite wishing it to be so. We had local elections, the Transport Convener cycles to work. She is one of my councillors. I should not have to petition anybody for anything quite so bleeding obvious.
Posted 4 years ago # -
I were RATS
Lesley Macinnes knows what to do.
But she & other councillors still need to see they have the support of the locals.
Get signing...
Posted 4 years ago # -
Only had 45 signatures when i signed. Cuh mon duders get signing
Posted 4 years ago # -
Thanks - I've shared the petition with the university's KB bug and had a couple of replies saying people have signed / shared.
Posted 4 years ago # -
@vioforla - Thanks, that's made me realise I had somehow been unsubscribed from that list.
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