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  1. crowriver
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    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. fimm
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    I wondered if that would get here... :-)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. chdot
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    Might get stuck at Newcraighall -

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14769#post-188125

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. crowriver
    Member

    @fimm, apparently it had some problems on the way up from England:

    "the test train was due to run the day before, but a deer collided with it at Prestonpans forcing its postponement for a day. "

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. fimm
    Member

    I meant, I wondered if that video would be posted on CCE!

    The train is a nice yellow colour.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. acsimpson
    Member

    You need to watch out for those passive aggressive deer. They'll collide with you as soon as look at you if you try to use their track.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. twq
    Member

    "a deer collided with it at Prestonpans forcing its postponement for a day."
    The deer or the train? I want to hear the deer's side of the story.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. chdot
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    'The deer was unavailable for comment.'

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. Good god that music! Flipped through rather than watching all the way in the hope he'd fade it out at some point.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. kaputnik
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    The train is a nice yellow colour.

    The high speed "New Measurement Train" has the same NR yellow paint job and is known as the "Flying Banana" for obvious reasons.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. acsimpson
    Member

    A couple of the curves seem to have quite a camber. Particularly when it goes through structure 44A.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. crowriver
    Member

    "Good god that music! "

    Aye. I just turned the sound off.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. kaputnik
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    A couple of the curves seem to have quite a camber.

    I can't watch the video from here, but imagine you are referring to cant.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cant_(road/rail)#Rail

    The basic idea is that as a train goes round a curve, the interaction between lateral forces pushing the train outwards and upwards* and gravity pulling it downwards and inwards are more or less balanced and contact between the wheel flanges and the rails (and therefore wear and squeal) is prevented or at the least minimised.

    Anyone who has taken a train through Burntisland will know just what wheel squeal sounds like - when the curve is has a station on it and therefore trains are slowing, there's a limit to the amount of cant that can be built in to the rails therefore through trains have to go slow and squeakily.

    *apologies in advance for my simplistic physics terms.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. slowcoach
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    there's another version with no music, but sounds of cameras clicking, train and other traffic noise, birdsong - that sort of thing.
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  15. acsimpson
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    @kaputnik,

    That's the one. Cant on the Rails, Camber on the Road. It just looks odd when the train is going so slowly round a curve obviously designed for higher speeds. I had assumed it was for passenger comfort and hadn't considered wear and tear on the flanges.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. kaputnik
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    There appears to be at least 2 distinctly different shades of yellow going on there.

    Tsk.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. chdot
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  18. kaputnik
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    the yellow carriages and their black-nosed locomotive

    Beg to differ, but like all mainline rolling stock, the nose is yellow. Look at your own picture, chipwrapper!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. Arellcat
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    Perhaps the EEN would prefer Network Rail didn't bother with all that tiresome maintenance of the permanent way.

    I suppose the journalist might've thought the 'nose' of the train was actually just the black grill over the horns.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. Morningsider
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    Nice use of the FOI there EEN journo. Some poor person had to sit there compiling these figures so you could write an article about how a 30 year old train very occasionally breaks down.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. kaputnik
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    The Flying Banana power cars are pushing 40; the youngest is 37 years old.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. wingpig
    Member

    Next week in the EEN: the shocking motorists causing delays by driving "slowly" and "safely" along motorways, using cars whose price has been inflated through thorough safety testing during development.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. kaputnik
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    Speaking of old Network Rail trains, the class 37 locomotive in the video above hauling the first test train along the new railway is ~52 years old; plenty old enough to have already been 6 years old when the Waverley route was closed.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. Arellcat
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    No. 37607, originally D6707, born in 1961 apparently. This is it brand new:

    D6707 Cambridge by Gerard Fletcher, on Flickr

    According to the Class 37 Loco Group, it was mostly working near London and then around Sheffield until 1969. I wonder if the outing in the video might have been its first trip on the Waverley route?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. chdot
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  26. SRD
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    David Spaven (mentioned in other threads recently) has a new book out:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Waverley-Route-Rebirth-Borders-Railway/dp/1906134995

    except that link's to his old book....I was told he had a new one out....

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. crowriver
    Member

    Talks to extend Borders Railway to Hawick and Carlisle

    Transport officials from the Scottish government have held talks on the possibility of extending the Borders Railway beyond Tweedbank. Infrastructure minister Keith Brown has confirmed that officers have discussed a feasibility study on linking the rail line with Carlisle, through Hawick.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-32996341?SThisFB

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. PS
    Member

    Shame they haven't double-tracked the just-built bit, as they'd probably need to do that in the event of the railway going further south.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Shame they haven't double-tracked the just-built bit, as they'd probably need to do that in the event of the railway going further south.

    The main line to Inverness operates largely as single track with passing loops north of Perth. It's not outwith the bounds of reason that you could operate a similarly parochial "intercity" service with enough passing loops. Unfortunately they haven't even built enough of these, and the single track secitons have been engineered in such a manner that doubling it to create loops will be complex and expensive.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. PS
    Member

    I think the passing loops are positioned in such a way to meet the proposed timetable. If the railway is extended south then that will no doubt go skew-with. Or require sub-optimal journey times. Or both.

    There was supposed to be some passive provision for double tracking (ie, laying the track on one side of the track bed to allow room for another track to be laid in future), but that may have just been north of Gorebridge.

    Posted 8 years ago #

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