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  1. custard
    Member

    Cyclist down at the roundabout at Sth Gyle Crec
    concious with Police/Ambulance in attendance

    hopefully get more info

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. custard
    Member

    suspected broken hip,cut to the head
    cyclist is local to the accident scene
    Road still closed at this point
    Car still at the scene while police look at the scene/decide whats happened
    Driver breathalised & clear.no charge at this point AFAIK

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. Not good. This year certainly seems to be worse for incidents. Hope the rider is okay, or at least can recover well.

    No blame apportioned without any facts (I also have no idea what it's like to cycle that bit).

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. custard
    Member

    well its a smidsy from the drivers point of view
    so time will tell what happened

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. Ah, did that come from police/witnesses? If basic smidsy then there's no excuse.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. steveo
    Member

    That is a truly miserable area to ride in and that roundabout worries me on the rare occasion I need to go out that way.

    Any one heard from Kappers?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. amir
    Member

    "Any one heard from Kappers? "

    He tweeted about half an hour ago so should be okay.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. Uberuce
    Member

    The bike, two cop cars and the collision investigation vehicle were still there an hour ago, although the car and cyclist weren't around any more.

    Looked like a maroon MTB or hybrid at a glance, certainly not like Nelly's or Kappers bikes. Not me either, evidentally.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. steveo
    Member

    Roads just re-opened apparently.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. custard
    Member

    Ah, did that come from police/witnesses? If basic smidsy then there's no excuse.

    straight from the drivers mouth.
    I don't know what happened though as to road position etc
    As said,not a nice road(I have seen a bike hit there before) plus poor road surface as well

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. Uberuce
    Member

    The surface is horrible coming off that roundabout where the bike was lying; really not easy to get out of trouble there.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Is this South Gyle Crescent?

    When I came past, Bankhead Drive was closed between South Gyle Access and Broomhouse Roundabout and the Police collision unit + 2 other cars and a pair of motorbikes were on the scene.

    The road was closed in direction of the Gyle and traffic was being rerouted up towards Calder Road and then back down past Stevenson/Napier/Bank of Scotland.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  13. Uberuce
    Member

    Bankhead Drive, yarp.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  14. custard
    Member

    yeah sorry,When i was 1st told about it. it was described as the 'end of the road'
    Which would be Sth Gyle crec

    Posted 12 years ago #
  15. kaputnik
    Moderator

    My normal commute, but I have long-since abandoned the road for the path, even in its current state.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  16. alibali
    Member

    If basic smidsy then there's no excuse.

    Maybe, but I fear modern car design makes SMIDSY more common, mostly due to the Euro NCAP front end collision requirement. The easy way to meet this requirement is to give the vehicle thick A-pillars (the ones either side of the windscreen) and the blind-spots created can be huge. It's very difficult to be aware of the effect because the brain compensates for gaps in the visual field.

    Have a look at this. I certainly approach cars in the second and third collumn with extra caution since I became aware of this problem and I won't buy another Toyota Yaris either.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  17. Min
    Member

    I hope they are okay.

    As someone who has never owned a car but occasionally hires them it has become very obvious in recent years that cars now have extremely thick A pillars which makes seeing out of them more difficult. Going round right hand bends is the worst as there is really no way to see if there is anything coming towards you. Coming out of a junction you need to lean forward to ensure it is clear rather that just drive over anyone in your way but I don't suppose every driver does this.

    The last car we hired had the speedometer in front of the passenger so it was barely visible from the drivers seat unless you craned your neck to see it.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  18. custard
    Member

    http://goo.gl/maps/I3oYI

    to those who saw it
    Am i right in thinking it was around the right turn here?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  19. cb
    Member

    And I am increasinly exasperated by drivers who make things worse by sticking Satnavs to their windscreens.

    Saw one the other day that was directly in front of the driver, I think the idea was that they could look over the top of it. I was looking at them in my rear view mittor and their face from the nose down was obscured by it.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  20. kaputnik
    Moderator

    @custard didn't see it, but based on the position of Police cars and how the road was blocked off, that would fit.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  21. custard
    Member

    I wondered
    its on my commute(when I could cycle!)
    That right turn is a real danger in the AM(and probably all day)
    drivers go to the far right lane,then swing left on the turn. or vice versa

    Posted 12 years ago #
  22. wee folding bike
    Member

    Min,

    Yes, our Volvo 940 is largely the same as the 140s from the 1960s and it's much better for visibility at junctions. The windscreen is more vertical than modern ones and the pillars are not in the way.

    The V40 has exactly the problem you describe as does my dad's S80. I assume the windscreen rake lowers their drag.

    SatNav on the windscreen means you don't have to look away from the road as much when you want to check the screen. I've got it at the very bottom right corner of the windscreen, almost resting on the top of the dashboard.

    Using it in Edinburgh means I've seen bits of town I wouldn't have been in otherwise. It's also good for answering the weans when they ask "Are we there yet?" I can give them distance to a 1/10 of a mile and an ETA.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  23. custard
    Member

    Thats exactly how we have our satnav set up.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  24. Smudge
    Member

    We have our satnav low centre, just above the dash level directly below the rear view mirror, when solo it blocks little or no view of the road but is easy to glance at, when a passenger is in they can watch it and tell the driver where to go.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

    "

    TalkPorty~Portobello (@talkporty)

    14/08/2012 12:41

    Anyone witness cyclist come off bike, Portobello High St crossroads, Mon 8am? Info appreciated! http://fb.me/Yblew5ed @CyclingEdin #edinburgh

    "

    Posted 12 years ago #
  26. Nelly
    Member

    My normal commute, but I have long-since abandoned the road for the path, even in its current state.

    +1 - think we discussed this, and had decided, unilaterally, that we couldnt take the road any more - surface is brutal and we both had concerns that the road, rather than a car, would cause us damage - says it all really.

    I have given up FixMyStreeting it.

    Hope the cyclist is ok.

    @Min, your point re the car A frames/Pillars - they are thicker as many now contain air bags - I notice it in mine, and its a lot worse than 10 years ago - its ironic that its a safety feature which is particularly unsafe for other road users!!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  27. crowriver
    Member

    I presume this is the accident?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-19261011

    Poor guy is in hospital. Police want witnesses.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  28. fimm
    Member

    If custard's informant hasn't spoken to the police, perhaps custard should encourage them to do so?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  29. custard
    Member

    yeah they were there at the time. So police informed

    Posted 12 years ago #
  30. custard
    Member

    rumour has it this is going to court in the next 2 weeks

    Posted 11 years ago #

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