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Today's EEN cover + p5 spread
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Posted 12 years ago #
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Ouch. :-(
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Ouch indeed :-(
Hope she has a full recovery soon.
Funnily enough I was thinking the other day that the potholes/poor repairs on the Lanark Road between Currie and Gillespie Crossroads are getting bad enough to be dangerous/damaging, and that's on a heavy duty tourer with mountainbike wheels :-/A long long way to go before we are any sort of safe and pleasant cycling city, there are moves in the right direction, but mean and inadequate in the main.
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Here's the link to the on-line version.
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Yikes :-(
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I don’t know why they have done the trams, we don’t need them. They should have made a bike network and then people would be much healthier and happier.
"I used to support the trams myself but I agree with this wholeheartedly. Imagine how much better the city would be now if the tram cash had been spent on redesigning streets along Dutch "sustainable safety" lines, or even on cheap Chicago/New York/Seville style segregated lanes on major roads. Far better value for money.
IIRC the inspiration for the trams was to help reduce the illegal levels of poison gas fumes from motor traffic. Improving the cycling infrastructure would have done so much more for that problem, too.
(Mind you, fair's fair, other cities have managed to build tram lines for one twentieth the cost of ours.)
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That's terrible. And can happen to anyone, and there's precious little you can do about it.
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I saw the EEN cover in Scotmid Porty branch this morning. It's a valid safety concern, and a terrible thing to happen to anyone. However I'm worried that the way it's splashed on the front page like that is yet more sensationalist scare mongering: "CYCLING IS REALLY BLOODY DANGEROUS, LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO HER!" Imagine a driver, thinking about possibly cycling to work, that would put them right off.
Imagine how much better the city would be now if the tram cash had been spent on redesigning streets along Dutch "sustainable safety" lines, or even on cheap Chicago/New York/Seville style segregated lanes on major roads. Far better value for money.
Well yes, except of course the council would never have got 500 million from the Scottish government/parilament for cycle lanes. Not 'proper' transport. Maybe they would have got 500 thousand...
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"CYCLING IS REALLY BLOODY DANGEROUS, LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO HER!"
It's a double edged sword. You have to emphasize the roads are in a dangerous condition to get something done about it. The penalty is the non-cycling public perceive cycling to be too dangerous to contemplate.
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My eyes strayed down to the comments. Fortunately the first one said -
"This comment was left by a user who has been blocked by our staff."
Reminded me not to go any further...
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Actually, while there are some daft comments, for once most are sympathetic.
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yeah, i didn't want to jinx it, but at the point when i posted the link, the comments all looked okay.
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Well yes, except of course the council would never have got 500 million from the Scottish government/parilament for cycle lanes. Not 'proper' transport.
"Give us a year or two and they'll be spending that kind of money on cycling. They'll have to; it makes too much financial sense not to.
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It says she only got the bike in the summer so it's possible that she doesn't have much experience of cycling in the dark and winter.
if she hit a stank then she might have been too close to the kerb.
I'd avoid stank lids when they are wet anyway because they can be more slippery than tarmac.
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According to some of the commenter, she shouldn't be cycling over sunken drains or through puddles, but neither should she move out to avoid them.
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I had to explain that to my second years yesterday. They assumed I'd be cycling in the gutter where all the water was and expected I'd have got wet.
EDIT
I notice it was also on a bridge. I cross the A8/M8 every morning and there is more ice on that bridge than the other bits of road.
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"Actually, while there are some daft comments, for once most are sympathetic."
Makes a nice change.
Suppose it makes it easier to 'blame the Council".
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"Give us a year or two and they'll be spending that kind of money on cycling. They'll have to; it makes too much financial sense not to."
There speaks an optimist.
I HOPE you're right!
Posted 12 years ago # -
There speaks an fantasist.
FTFY :-(
Posted 12 years ago # -
It's a simple choice - either be optimistic about Scotland or chuck a good job and learn Dutch
Posted 12 years ago # -
chuck a good job and learn Dutch
Believe me, I've considered it!
Posted 12 years ago # -
Je nog steeds road rage in Nederland..... http://www.at5.nl/artikelen/90938/boze-fietser-smijt-fiets-door-ruit Roughly translated the cyclist was almost hit by a car that entered the cycle path so he threw his bike through the back window of the car...... He was arrested and the traffic was temporarily directed by zwaarte piet.
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The car-centric convention of our roads is that cyclists must only be tolerated in the gutter. This is officially endorsed when councils insist on painting 1m-wide lanes in the gutter, which is generally where you find drain covers, manhole covers, the debris swept into the gutter off the road, rubbish dropped from the pavement, and where buses seem to do the most damage.
It's not even as simple as just cycling a few metres out from the pavement - you literally have to weave around all over the place to pick a route down some roads. Even the most experienced and careful cyclists can and do come a cropper eventually.
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You do eventually learn, in my case, from experience, that there's a pothole concealed in every puddle.
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You do eventually learn, in my case, from experience, that there's a missing drain grate concealed in some puddles.
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Although nobody can deny that Edinburgh's road surfaces are generally the most appalling to be found just about anywhere in the developed world, one of the worst is on the way down Ardmillan from "The Diggers".I'm glad I don't have to take that road very often but when I do I always breath a big sigh of relief when I get sfely to the bottom.
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My wife's just back from a trip to Fort Kinnaird where she hit a pot-hole so large that she's now off to the garage to have the car checked. Another driver had hit the same hole and was out with his spare tyre. She has promised to inform Clarence.
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There are some big potholes appearing at the moment. Be careful out there.
I am always careful coming down Gilmerton Road. The surface is a nightmare. There is a cycle lane painted but I rarely venture into it.
Posted 12 years ago # -
Looks awful. 20mph doesn't sound right.
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