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Two pedestrians knocked down in Edinburgh yesterday

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  • Started 12 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
  • Latest reply from recombodna

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  1. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    A 60 year old hit by a bus on Lothian Road (nasty looking picture of the smashed windscreen)

    81 year old killed outside the Western General (the driver is 'helping police with their enquiries')

    No other info, so can't really comment. Certainly where the first one happened pedestrians are often trying to get across against the red man, and there are traffic streams everywhere and I've seen a few hairy close passes there. At the same time I've seen a bus hit a car there - seemed to be caused by neither wanting to cede priority, but in that situation the bus is always going to win!

    Posted 12 years ago #

  2. Min
    Member

    Very sad.

    Porterfield Road is the road actually in the hospital. It is difficult to work out how someone could have been killed there as people should be driving very slowly round there.

    EEN version is here. It gives a list of all the people who have been killed or injured in Edinburgh and the Lothians in the last few months.

    Latest figures, released by Lothian and Borders Police, showed that a total of nine adults and nine children were killed on the roads in the Lothians between April and September.

    During the same period 165 adults sustained serious injuries, 97 of them in Edinburgh.

    Two youngsters were also badly hurt in East Lothian and Midlothian and five in West Lothian.

    Another 1048 adults suffered minor injuries over the period.

    Of these, 590 of the injuries occurred in the Capital.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  3. le_soigneur
    Member

    How is it possible to smash your car into the back of a horse-drawn carriage at 2pm and not be driving recklessly?

    http://news.stv.tv/scotland/203709-man-seriously-injured-in-horse-drawn-carriage-wedding-day-crash/

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  4. slowcoach
    Member

    Min, cars don't need to be going fast to kill people. Pedestrians have been killed by vehicles which were reversing or moving slowly forward to pull out of a side street or a parking place and hitting people that the drivers hadn't noticed.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  5. PS
    Member

    From Min's link:

    "It was being "driven" by Simon Millar, who had his daughter Hannah on board with him, when it collided with a blue/grey Honda CRV."

    Why on earth does ""driven"" have the inverted commas around it? It's a perfectly accurate use of the word. [/pedantry]

    I also seriously doubt that the carriage was the one doing the colliding.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  6. Arellcat
    Moderator

    PS, probably because society now has the entrenched view that driving refers only to motor vehicles newfangled horseless carriages, and is happily ignorant that both the Offences Against the Person Act 1861 and the Town Police Clauses Act 1847 naturally refer to the driving of horses, cattle and carriages. A prospective amendment to the Road Safety Act 2006 effectively equated 'driving' with that of mechanically propelled vehicles.

    And for those concerned about the horses: "A local vet attended the collision and treated the horses for minor injuries."

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  7. AKen
    Member

    I also seriously doubt that the carriage was the one doing the colliding.

    If it was, it certainly reversed into that car at a hell of a lick.

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  8. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Could a vehicle of literally two to four horsepower cause that much metalwork damage? I think not. Even the best stagecoaches, with changes of horses every eight miles, averaged 8mph (albeit on the roads of the day).

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  9. steveo
    Member

    Looks like one of those big heavy wheels rolled right up the bonnet.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  10. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Woman, 85, knocked down in hit-and-run in Morningside Grove.

    Had just got off a 23 bus. I hope the buses cameras caught the numberplate.

    It staggers me that anyone could do something like this and just drive off.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  11. SRD
    Moderator

    I have seen so many cars whizz around those corners - including the blind one at the top of Craighouse, that I am just surprising there aren't more pedestrians hit there.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  12. DaveC
    Member

    These are one of the reasons I try to stay off roads as much as possible. The only busy roads I commute on are the main road throgh Inverkeithing and up Bellevue occationally as I have tried S^c^o^t^l^a^n^d S^t^r^e^e^t and Dublin Street.

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  13. mgj
    Member

    On the 81 year old killed at the Western, my mum was at the funeral on Friday. This was not a doddery old woman, but a sprightly one, killed by a private hire car doing an u-turn. No doubt he'll get no fine or points as that would affect his livelihood. If sentencing of those who damage artworks is designed to stop others doing so, traffic-related crime should do so as well.

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  14. Min
    Member

    I got an email round at work victim blaming over this. Pedestrians were admonished to walk right round the inside of the building rather than venture outside and if they did insist on such a foolish thing they were to use the supposed "safe" crossing points only. Nowhere were drivers advised to drive carefully in a place which by definition is likely to contain a lot of old or sick people. I didn't post about it at the time as it made me too angry and in fact it still does.

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  15. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    Min, that's quite frankly ridiculous! Justified to get angry about it...

    Posted 12 years ago #

  16. minus six
    Member

    We've reached the point where any pedestrian or cyclist losing their life at the hands of a sober motorist, is just regarded as death by misadventure.

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  17. kaputnik
    Moderator

    @Min was there a similar email around work reminding drivers not to drive over pedestrians? (Rhetorical question)

    Posted 12 years ago #

  18. Min
    Member

    Of course not.

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  19. recombodna
    Member

    "It staggers me that anyone could do something like this and just drive off." Yeah it beggars belief in the case of this video the woman runs over an old man and keeps on trucking........ with folk like this on the road jeez it makes yer blood run cold! http://youtu.be/HtKUZ_SNK60

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