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Bike theft taken seriously

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  • Started 13 years ago by chdot
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  1. chdot
    Admin

    In London.

    "
    • Tackling organised cycle theft through proactive investigations and operations;
    • Disrupting the trade of stolen second-hand bikes and bicycle parts through working with online websites such as eBay, and running undercover operations and high visibility patrols in hot spot areas;
    "

    etc.

    http://www.bikebiz.com/news/32261/London-Police-lead-bike-crime-crackdown

    Posted 13 years ago #
  2. Kim
    Member

    Ah, but this is Edinburgh.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  3. spytfyre
    Member

    Maybe it is cos Boris is pro bike

    He's even wearing a helmet

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. Dave
    Member

    Indeed. Refreshing when so many say that the problem with...

    ... Boris Johnson is that he just doesn't...

    ... take the lethal dangers of cycling in Britain ...

    ... seriously enough!

    I'm assuming it wasn't him who had his bike nicked from a bollard (!!) then? Or was it, and he's too embarrassed not to do anything about it!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  5. Kim
    Member

    I think you will find the person stupid enough to have his bike nicked from a bollard is now running the country! Worrying isn't it...

    Posted 13 years ago #
  6. spytfyre
    Member

    @Dave (yes I saw those pics on google images too)

    Posted 13 years ago #
  7. Kim
    Member

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  8. chdot
    Admin

    "During June LCC is tagging thousands of bikes all over Greater London to alert cyclists to the dangers of bike theft."

    http://www.lcc.org.uk/index.asp?PageID=1868

    Posted 13 years ago #
  9. SRD
    Moderator

    Some of those around the uni would be a very good idea!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  10. chdot
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  11. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Proposition: Acquisitive crime would plummet if the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 were repealed, all drugs legalised and regulated and their consumption only treated as a public matter if it leads to disorder or ill-health.

    Imagine a world where pure drugs are sold to over-18s from pharmacies.

    It would be a massive blow to organised criminals and to the paramilitary policing needed to tackle them.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    A lot would change if drug laws were altered significantly.

    Presumably there is data on likely cost of key drugs comparing ‘street price’ and shop price.

    Does the tab get picked up by the NHS once individuals get addicted??

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @chdot

    Pre-'71 opiates were prescribed to registered addicts. Seems like a reasonable practice. When the UK actively promoted opium consumption in China about 5% of the population became addicted.

    The cost of production of most common drugs is absolutely minimal. The ingredients are common and the chemistry straightforward. The high retail price is because psychopathic gangsters operate local monopolies.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. unhurt
    Member

    And re: about 5% of the population became addicted it seems pretty clear that the underlying causes of addiction aren't "weakness" or "lack of moral character" or "inherent addictiveness of substance X" but trauma, pain, suffering - we should be treating those, and eliminating their causes where possible, not criminalizing addicts. But drug policy is driven by tabloid headlines, so.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. acsimpson
    Member

    Given the level of social disorder generated by Alcohol (a legal mind altering drug) why do you not think that there would be an increase in such behaviour if other drugs were added to the mix?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. dessert rat
    Member

    I've never seen someone stoned looking a fight.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. Trixie
    Member

    The apparently willy-nilly nature with which benzos and opiates are prescribed creates apparently acceptable addicts whose addiction is then supported and funded yet hee-haw is done for 'street' addicts. It's messed up.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. Frenchy
    Member

    why do you not think that there would be an increase in such behaviour if other drugs were added to the mix?

    It's almost certainly not universal, but I think most places which have decriminalised or legalised drug use have actually seen rates of drug use go down, probably because it becomes far easier for addicts to get help and treatment. This suggests that adding other drugs to the mix is unlikely to cause major problems.

    Article on Portugal's experience here: https://mic.com/articles/110344/14-years-after-portugal-decriminalized-all-drugs-here-s-what-s-happening

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Given the level of social disorder generated by Alcohol...why do you not think that there would be an increase in such behaviour if other drugs were added to the mix?

    That would be a matter of experience. I'd expect a more grown-up society to behave in more grown-up ways. My taxi driver mate says the folk on 'mephedrone' are the most dangerous. They simply have no way of knowing what they've taken. Regulated supply lets people know drug identities and doses in advance.

    The present system hands huge amounts of money to the very worst people in society, wrecks the most vulnerable and inconveniences the rest. I can't see any reason not to try another approach, especially one known to work elsewhere.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. Frenchy
    Member

    "MAN ARRESTED FOR THEFT OF HIGH VALUE PEDAL BIKES

    At the beginning of December 2019, high valued bikes totalling almost £40,000 were stolen from garages, sheds and bike storage units across Edinburgh.

    Officers from the south west of Edinburgh carried out enquiries resulting in all but two of the bikes being traced and returned to their owners.

    On 7th January 2020, a 19 year old man was traced, arrested and charged with multiple acquisitive offences. He was held in custody to appear at Edinburgh Sheriff Court."

    Posted 4 years ago #
  21. edinburgh87
    Member

    Should get 5-10 years no parole but alas I suspect the outcome will be nowhere near

    Posted 4 years ago #
  22. Snowy
    Member

    The sheer total value should mean he receives significant prison time.

    But of course, 'only bikes'...

    Posted 4 years ago #
  23. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The sheer total value should mean he receives significant prison time.

    You can burn a whole bike shop down live on video and get no prison time.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  24. neddie
    Member

    TBH, I think kids like this need help, not jail time.

    The people that need jail time are the ones using motor vehicles as threats and weapons.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  25. Rosie
    Member

    Did they say the actual number of bikes? Depending on the value, £40,000 could be 40 bikes, or 30, or 50. Where could he store them?

    I posted this on Facebook and draconian punishments, including corporal, are being called for.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  26. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    If I understand correctly most acquisitive theft is to fund purchase of controlled drugs. If we just prescribed them we'd all be a lot better off, apart from the psycho drug lords.

    Posted 4 years ago #

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