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"1,000-bike 'Scou-cycle' hire scheme planned for Liverpool"

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  1. chdot
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  2. Nelly
    Member

    Not a bad shout, pretty flat city centre, lots of traffic so cycle scheme could be a winner.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. Calum
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    According to TfL, the Boris Bikes make up just 6% of all bicycle journeys in London. This is in a city with a 2% bicycle mode share. They are completely insignificant. This money would be better spent on cycling infrastructure.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. During the 2012 London Olympics, a record of 47,105 cycle hires were made in a single day.[5] Cyclists using the scheme are three times less likely to be injured per trip than cyclists in London as a whole, possibly due to motorists giving cycle hire users more road space than they do other cyclists.[6]

    From Wikipedia

    Okay, 47,000 is a record. Say the daily uses are 30,000 as 'normal' - that would mean 500,000 bike trips a day in London. Is that right? (honestly no idea, might be).

    Off to find a tfl link.

    Would be intrigued to know if bike hire schemes are useless or not.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. Calum
    Member

    http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/TV12_026_Business_Plan_D15LR.pdf

    "More than" 540 000 cycle journeys per day, which is 197 100 000 per year. 6% of those cycle journeys are done on Barclays Cycle Hire bikes - so that's 32 400 per day or 11 826 000 per year.

    This compares to literally billions of Tube, bus, and rail journeys every year. So really the cycle hire scheme, much like the vaunted "Cycle Superhighways", is insignificant - a marketing effort, to make it look like the authorities are doing something for cycling.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. Smudge
    Member

    Presumably that's in 20 or 30 thousand journeys that otherwise would be done by taxi or bus? Sounds like a winner to me, the users don't have the expense of purchase or the worry of theft either. Good for visitors to the place as well.
    On its own it's clearly not a "solution", but it's part of the ongoing normalisation of the use of means other than private motor vehicles to travel round our cities.

    Good news I say, lets have more of them and more cities providing them.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. chdot
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    Simpler, more reliable and always free of charge the new Vël'OK bikes will add some colour to the city.

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    http://www.velok.lu/home.html

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    with a population of 27,146

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esch-sur-Alzette

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. Morningsider
    Member

    I worked in Liverpool for six months many moons ago. It appeared that I was the only person in the entire city that cycled to work. I hope things have improved since then, but I doubt it - the city feels like an even madder Glasgow.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. Dave
    Member

    "make up just 6% ... completely insignificant."

    I wouldn't mind 6% of your salary in that case... I even promise to donate it to charity :P

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. PS
    Member

    Cycleschemes are at the very least a clear statement of intent. They also let anyone become a cyclist at the drop of a hat. I wouldn't have cycled in Paris without the Velib and for that reason I am very grateful that such schemes exist.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. Calum
    Member

    Hold on a second...

    Wikipedia says London's scheme cost £140million. I assumed that must be the going rate for these things.

    But that article says Liverpool's scheme is going to cost £1.5million. That actually looks like quite good value. How did London manage to spend SO MUCH?

    Posted 12 years ago #

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