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"Edinburgh’s Royal Mile set for majestic revamp"
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Posted 12 years ago #
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All sounds good. Although it's less "majestic revamp" and more "bl**dy obvious".
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Lots of the obvious comments from the usual morons...
--How will the shops manage with out deliveries
--Think of the disruption
--Council hates driversI think we need an EEN bingo card.
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As long as this is still possible...
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"I don't like the idea of my daughter walking down the Royal Mile at night without cars passing by. It'll be a muggers paradise.
Interesting comment. Cars as anti-mugging devices? Is the Royal Mile that busy with traffic in the wee small hours?
Posted 12 years ago # -
Oops (photo above).
Right day, wrong place.
Was dazzled by the blue tabards.
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I had plain forgotten about the crime-busting nature of Royal Mile traffic.
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"at night without cars passing by"
Well this is one of the interesting 'impressions'.
'Cars have witnesses/people who might stop and help.'
'All pedestrians are potential muggers', or 'no cars means fewer pedestrians'
There must be some research somewhere(?)
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All they need to do is encourage crime-busting cyclists instead, surely...
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Like these?
Posted 12 years ago # -
I can't remember that at POP
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From Scotsman article -
"It is pedestrians that go to shops and cafes, not cars."
Posted 12 years ago # -
Yes - that's very enlightened
Posted 12 years ago # -
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From Scotsman article -"It is pedestrians that go to shops and cafes, not cars."
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As long as the restrictions are on motorised vehicles they are to be welcomed. Making the street cycle friendly though is likely to involve some action on the setts.
Amazing comments on the chipwrapper site though. Apparently tourists spend more money while on coaches than they might do while walking past shops on a nice street. A simple suggestion might be to make the esplanade the only place you can drop off a tour party, and Holyrood the only place a coach can pick up (or maybe Caltongate). Are there really that many people who couldnt walk a mile downhill? (or get a rickshaw)
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I've never really had a problem with the setts on the Royal Mile - aren't they in pretty good nick?
Posted 12 years ago # -
there is an alarming spot that looks like a buffalo wallow* on the mile between Johnstone terrace and the Mound.
*possibly a bus stop
Posted 12 years ago # -
@SRD Good point - the Lawnmarket to the Castle section is in shocking nick. I was thinking more of the surface from Holyrood to the Tron.
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"I've never really had a problem with the setts on the Royal Mile - aren't they in pretty good nick?"
The right turn from St Mary's Street into the Canongate features some fairly ropey wobble-stones and a diagonal cliff unless you go wide, overshoot then make a right-angled turn. The Canongate itself is tarmac, so is mostly OK apart from drains and access holes. Between St Mary's Street and North Bridge the setts are fairly firmly wedged but very very juddery even at uphill speeds, making it tempting to go in the smooth gutter if there's nothing behind which would get the wrong impression.
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"muggers paradise"
Hilarious. Another example of the normally-absent social conscience that appears in The Motorists whenever the right to drive is threatened.
All streets must be dedicated to cars at all times. We must resist the threat of pedestrianisation, and any excuse, however feeble, will do.
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Hmm, in some ways I think it's more complex than that, @CalumCookable. People withdraw into cars out of fear of strangers, and being in a car isolates you from strangers, allowing your fears to grow. It's why I hate gated communities and private schools, and love public transport. I LIKE mixing with others. People are generally decent. But cars put you into conflict with others, and the main interaction with strangers is fighting - almost literally - for space on the road.
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@bdellar. I would add only that for lots of people mixing is hard work. I don't think it ought to be, necessarily, but it can be. And lots of people don't have the patience to see the benefits that can be returned. So it is easier to strap their kids into childseats, than to negotiate bus travel where your kids may misbehave or ask awkward questions, not seeing that those kids benefit from seeing different people and learning how to talk politely to strangers, even strange ones. And generationally, this must perpetuate itself. If you've never had to engage with people with different senses of personal space, and different ideas of how you should interact as a child, then you are likely to find it threatening and challenging when you are an adult with your own kids.
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Orange setts for the Canongate?
http://www.scotsman.com/news/royal-mile-revamp-plan-for-orange-cobbles-1-2808605
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"It is pedestrians that go to shops and cafes, not cars."? How odd, when we tried to get the planners to take that point on board with the redevelopment of Leith
WalkDrive, they just didn't get it...Posted 12 years ago # -
@Kim, yeah if only it was called "Royal" something or other. Or maybe "Queen's Drive"? Oh, except that already exists, and is a 40mph rat run for most if its length...
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I saw them setting up for that at the old Canongate Venture building tonight when left work around 6pm
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A BLANKET ban on cars using key stretches of the Royal Mile is set to be introduced after Christmas in a move to boost the fortunes of Edinburgh’s most iconic thoroughfare.
Building on the success of the semi-pedestrianised section near City Chambers, planning chiefs are set to introduce traffic calming measures outside Canongate Kirk and create a no-car zone between Niddry Street and St Mary’s Street, though access would be allowed between 6.30 and 10.30am
Of course, it's not a blanket ban as the headline would suggest, as there are hours of exemption!
Fail!
Posted 11 years ago #
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