closedI saw this via a link on another cycling forum, looks a great idea and I hope is catches on.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/486778887/hubdock-quick-release-rear-wheel
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Posted 11 years ago #
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I can't help thinking it's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Is removing a rear wheel really as onerous a task as they make out?
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What I like about it is that you can keep the chain on a large sprocket so its all ready for a quick get away. That and the chain being kept under tension when the wheel is out.
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"I can't help thinking it's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist"
Some people don't understand q/rs and some aren't strong enough to open/close.
BUT, rather than a neat skewer innovation this seems to be a complete new type of hub - which raises all sorts of issues.
Didn't actually listen to vid so don't know if he wants money with intent to manufacture or better prototype to licence/sell the idea.
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I also like the way you can swap wheels (eg between studded and normal tyres) without having to transfer the cassette.
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Punctuation rears its ugly head again - "this industry-standard shattering rear wheel axle" doesn't exactly mean the same as "this industry-standard-shattering rear wheel axle", which is what I think they mean. For a second or two I was imagining some sort of small explosive charge buried in a disposable wheel hub. Which could be great to watch from a distance.
@Cyclops A rear wheel with internal hub gears might be tricky to remove, but then again they specifically mention derailleurs. Even I found it easy enough to get the rear wheel on and off my old derailleur-equipped bike.
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Having thought about his further, how often do people actually remove their rear wheel anyway? I'd suspect the annual frequency is in single figures for almost everyone (unless you've got rubbish tyres fitted). Admittedly, inveterate tinkerers and pro mechanics will do it more often but then they'll be quite adept at it and the Hub Dock won't be any benefit at all. So assuming the Hub Dock is a minute quicker than a conventional axle (and I'm probably being overgenerous here) it'll save you less than 10 minutes a year.
@cc I can't see how this system could conceivably work with internal gears so it's purely for derailleurs and SS/fixed.
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Top hyphen-pedantry, cc ;)
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I have Cramond-proof tyres fitted but still have to replace them twice a year when they wear down to the fabric.
A possible additional advantage of HubDock could be the ability to replace driveside spokes without having to remove the cassette. Again, rarely useful in an ideal world.Posted 11 years ago # -
I read the time saving as being fifteen seconds.
Insignificant, given how many folk make a real meal out of getting a tyre off and on again to swap a tube. And you still get your hands dirty from the rim/tyre.
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"I read the time saving as being fifteen seconds"
Might be significant at an important part of a pro race - but all components would have to be top quality.
So more chance if sold/licensed.
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"how often do people actually remove their rear wheel anyway?"
Well I removed mine this afternoon, and on the other bike I removed it last week to fix a puncture, but before that...?
(Discovered that the sprocket lock nut was waaay too loose. Sorting that has fixed an annoying clicky type noise that has been bugging me for ages. That more than repaid any issues re. rear wheel removal)
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Looks like a good way to have a wheel fall off the bike on you!
I too thought "ooh, makes putting a spare wheel on easy". However, then thought that because you require a special hub for this, it may end up costing more than the price of a second wheel with a traditional freehub and second cassette.
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Any downsides? Well, not any that we can think of, other than it's going to be a bit more expensive than a standard hub. Your first production run hub will cost you $379 on the Kickstarter pitch. Okay that's not cheap, but they're basically hand built. That's less than a Chris King hub would set you back. And there's nothing about the technology that necessarily makes it expensive. It's a simple concept."
http://road.cc/content/news/79270-hubdock-better-way-change-rear-wheel
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