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Doubt if it could account for that much of the 25% over 5 years
I think it can. If you examine the mpg figures of cars built in the past 5 years compared to what it was like from 2007 and back, they are surprisingly more fuel efficient. I'm not suggesting that it accounts for all of the 25%, but from the figures provided with new cars these days, I think it accounts for a fair chunk of it.
Okay, buggy inflation in pictures:
Thats not like for like though, I've got a maclaren buggy that folds in that manner. We've also got an iCandy which is much larger.
What you're showing are prams with the option of attaching a buggy seat for older kids, doing double duty for the same money as you would buy an old style pram which would have been very very difficult to perambulating up tenament stairs, unlike these modern folding prams.
What you're showing are prams with the option of attaching a buggy seat for older kids, doing double duty for the same money as you would buy an old style pram which would have been very very difficult to perambulating up tenament stairs, unlike these modern folding prams.
I dunno about that. When our first child was born we were given an older 'traditional' pram. The cot part detached with the removal of some straps and poppers and could be taken upstairs easily (we live on the top floor). The frame collapsed and folded into a much smaller size than these combination pram/buggies.
Later we had a Quinny travel system thingy. The frame was so heavy I just used to lock it up next to the bikes at the foot of the stair. Getting it into even large cars or taxis was a real hassle due to the size. Very comfy for the bairn over the broken Edinburgh pavements, even a bit of off-roading possible. However I'm glad to be shot of it.
If I were to do it again (which I'm not planning to) I'd go for pram with carrycot/car seat attachment for the pre-walking stage. Then get rid and have the smallest lightest buggy possible. The 'do-it-all' monsters are a bit of a con, sold on all the whizz bang features and colour combinations (you just have to have this season's brand/colour/look). Totally over engineered, heavy, unwieldy and expensive.....a bit like urban tank 4x4s in fact!
crowriver - You get big and small buggies, just like you get big and small cars - it isn't a new thing. There's a great photo of Mrs M as a baby in a pram that looks like it could easily have doubled as a small ocean liner.
EDIT - I heartily recommend the Bugaboo Bee - think of it as bike rather than 4x4, small, nippy, folds up easily and fits on the bus (including in the luggage rack), easy to carry up stairs and caters for both babies and small children. It isn't cheap, but I expect to get at least six years continuous service from mine (two kids worth) - which probably averages out pretty well.
For free buggies, check out the Silverknowes end of NEPN, there's usually a few lying about by the end of the day, and some high end models as well, by the look of it
I've often wondered about this phenomenon, and conclude that baby-minders are joyriding them back from the town, and then ditching the evidence in the bushes when approaching home territory
I tried to convince Mrs Baldcyclist, that when the time comes we should get a pram that's smaller and more nimble etc etc.
I was told we couldn't because of the something or other, thingmy, and that it *had* to be a proper pram because it's better than for the something or other, thingmy to do with the baby, and that we *are* getting a Silver Cross something or other, thingmy, and that was all there is to it.
Was easier just to say OK, partly because I had gotten bored almost as soon as she started blabbering on, and didn't really take in anything she had said*.
Although I'm not sure that casting it up when she is complaining how heavy it is to push / get into the car etc that it will go down too well?
*I will probably be a terrible parent.
One of my sisters has a Fiat 500. It is perfect for her, as she rarely wants to transport anything other than herself and her stuff over short distances.
Our pram/buggy choices were severely restricted by needing one with a carseat which fitted into a Seicento whilst leaving space for a second back-seat occupant and my requirement that we got one where I wasn't kicking the occupant's head with every step or accidentally kicking the brake on with my toe, which still sometimes happens with the bus-compatible folding Babyjogger.
@Morningsider, yeah we had something vaguely similar by Quinny/Maxi Cosi at one stage (but a bit cheaper/fewer features), kind of one up from a 'microlight' McLaren if you will.
The smaller wheels were not great over anything vaguely rough like grass, stony unpaved tracks, cobbles, etc. But it was light and folded reasonably small: small enough to take on the plane on holiday. I think we left it with some friends in our holiday destination...
The bigger buggies, especially three wheelers, but also the four wheelers with big back wheels and proper tyres, are good if you do a lot of walking. Nightmare to get onto a bus or into anything less than an estate car/people carrier though.
We found that after about 2 1/2 years old, the big buggies are more hassle than they're worth. We still use the nimble and small folding McLaren though for our 3 year old (nearly 4) when we have to walk any distance.
Baldcyclist - quite the contrary. You have already developed one of the most important parenting skills - recognising that almost all "advice" about stuff you need for a baby is nonsense.
Even for here, this is some serious thread drift!
I still grudge the cost of our "travel system", the coxwane was in a folding buggy by 9 months and only used the pram part a half dozen times, though the car clip in thingy was good when he was very little.
Oh by the way, while we're on the topic of buggies and transporting them. If anyone has a hankering to transport a stroller (eg. McLaren or similar) by bike whilst their child's on a rear seat, I can recommend the Steco Buggy Mee:
We have one, we've stopped using it for the moment, though it may come back into service this summer (if we get one), probably for its last outing as by summer 2014 I think our buggy will have been retired.
It is perfect for her, as she rarely wants to transport anything other than herself and her stuff over short distances
bike? :)
Hmm. Even those skinny hooks wouldn't fit under a Co-Pilot.
There's a similar mutation taking place with infant backpacks - the old Macpac Koala I have on long-term loan from a colleague is like an old-fashioned metal-frame-with-fabric-attached rucksack, whereas the new version is all moulded panels, adjustable bits and padded bulk yet is far less comfortable to wear.
My wife has told that the only acceptable "baby travel systems" is an iCandy. Luckily it does fold fairly flat and even the wheels pop off (hopefully only when you push the release button)which is probably a fair indicator that "baby travel systems" are fairly bulky these days
@kaputnik sadly not. She does live in a very small house, and is the sort of person who would not want to risk damaging her wallpaper anyway, and there really isn't anywhere secure she could store one outside once she's stored a couple of wheely bins!
(All of which says, what she needs is a folder, of course...)
(All of which says, what she needs is a folder, of course...)
Exactly. Perfect birthday/Christmas pressie!
Needn't be fancy: Decathlon or Halfords (Raleigh) folders light and easy enough to use.
Saw a guy in a five km park run pushing the baby in a jogging buggy. I was going to phone social services but was told Park Run want you to run the five k with your baby in a buggy and your dog on a lead. I had done my run so I had fun tanking it round one lap and then going home. One time I was running anti clockwise whilst the park run was clockwise they did not like that even tho I was on the grass and they were on the path.
We had a silver cross pram our friends lent us, very heavy and trickyntonget up stairs. We had a MacLaren Buggy reliable, bit to put in a standing platform, it was second hand so we finally bought a new one. Then we were lent a more modern trendy pram that could be turned into a pushchair. prams are a nightmare rip off that you would do well to escape from as they cost about one thousand pounds and are made of plastic. Recommend the Wilkienet for safely strapping a nipper to your torso. Facing in or out, good contact too. Remember the MSc thesis that went viral about buggies facing forward linking to attachment issues. Modest research punching above its weight. You cannot introduce rationality into the pram debate.
Putting a grown man in a pram and pushing him from pub to pub is popular in Currie
As we have gone so far onto family cycling and buggies etc thought I should stick in link here. This should be image of new Morpeheus with a very strong front rack with fittting for a car child seat.
The idea here being you buy a bike that can grow with family.
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/circecycles/8166359643/sizes/m/
Maybe even two car sets on that beauty
"Putting a grown man in a pram and pushing him from pub to pub is popular in Currie"
Oh, Dave's going to fit right in...
Having lived in Currie for 17 years, I feel I'm able to advise that this sounds like a posh way to travel around the village.
There will be lots of amazing value buggies and travel systems at the Polwarth Nearly New sale 27th April. some starting under £20 if out of fashion, but still high quality, but also lots of more recent ones, at higher prices.
Hmm. Even those skinny hooks wouldn't fit under a Co-Pilot.
Fits under a Hamax just fine.
The iCandy - The Burberry of prams.
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