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"ASLs not being repainted"
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Posted 13 years ago #
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@cb that's very odd. I go that way most days and have honestly never noticed! Probably because it's particularly narrow there and I can rarely get room to filter down and get near the DMZ.
My theory is that it's to do with the lights timing sequence - cars turning right from Roseburn towards Russell Road don't get long on their filter. By pushing back the stop line for cars turning left, it gives slightly more time for them to make the turn by virtue of traffic turning left having further to go. It clearly serves no "swing room" purposes, in fact it would seem to achieve the very opposite by moving cyclists in the right hand lane INTO the danger zone!
Posted 13 years ago # -
cb I don't think that junction is still like that is it?? I'm going that way this evening will have a look. Won't be taking pictures though ;)
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"I don't think that junction is still like that is it?? "
Yeah, you're right! Just checked the satellite view which I guess is more up to date:
Maybe whatever the original reason was didn't really work out.
Posted 13 years ago # -
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"I don't think that junction is still like that is it?? "Yeah, you're right! Just checked the satellite view which I guess is more up to date:
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That's strange. Street View was 2008, sat view for my part of town is definitely older - I assumed all of Edinburgh was done at same time(?)
Posted 13 years ago # -
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Posted 13 years ago # -
Re: Westfield Rd, response received as follows:
Thank you for your email to Customer Care dated 29 October 2010 regarding the above which has been passed to me for response.
The advance stop line was erroneously omitted from the planned works. The Roads Manager is currently consulting with the Cycling Officer regarding the appropriate specifications for this marking and when these are supplied, the markings will be reinstated as soon as resources allow. At this stage, I am unfortunately unable to indicate when this might be.Posted 13 years ago # -
hum, who is the cycling officer, and more importantly, what do they ride?
Posted 13 years ago # -
One wonders why they need to consult the Cycling Officer for two reasons:
1. This facility existed in the past; they should have the records of it.
2. I checked out the DOT Traffic Signs Manual (great for anoracks like me!) which I am sure they must have a copy of down at Road Services, and on p100 of Chapter 5, it states the following:16.21 Vehicles other than cycles must stop at the
first line when signalled to do so. An advisory or
mandatory cycle lane, preferably 1.5 m wide, must be
provided to enable cyclists to enter the reservoir
lawfully, i.e. without crossing the first stop line. The
two Stop lines must be between 4 and 5 m apart; the
area between them across the full width of the
approach is available for cyclists to wait at the red
light. This area and the approach lane may be
highlighted using coloured surfacing (see also para
16.12). The Stop lines should be 200 mm or 300 mm
wide (see para 3.7) and the boundary line should be
the same width as the centre line of the road (this
may be omitted where it is adjacent to a kerb).Pretty unambiguous.
Also highlights that most of the ASLs (I would guess at all, but I can't say I've stopped at them all to check) in Edinburgh do not meet this standard.Posted 13 years ago # -
"hum, who is the cycling officer, and more importantly, what do they ride? "
Whoops, you made a typo. Think that should read "DO they ride?"
...or am I being too cynical?
Posted 13 years ago # -
Others can speak more knowledgeably about this, but I thought there was a general consensus that the current cycling officer was well-intentioned etc, but rather hamstrung by failure to 'mainstream' cycling into planning. Assuming this is the same guy who was at the last Spokes meeting (not the councillor/transport guy) - there's a thread on that.
Posted 13 years ago # -
"or am I being too cynical?"
In this case yes.
Current Cycling Officer cycles a lot - in Edinburgh.
Previous CO cycled, but didn't live in Edinburgh.
There was an unfilled gap of about 2 years between them
It will be interesting to see if 'consulting with CO' results in positive changes to that layout.
Posted 13 years ago # -
Thank goodness. Must be a very frustrating job.
Posted 13 years ago # -
"Must be a very frustrating job"
I suspect you might be right.
Though I'm quite sure there will be good bits.
There are people throughout the council who are 'supportive' of cycling - just not enough of them (or in the right places).
Paradoxically there was a very senior official who cycled at lot - even to work.
SO 'for balance' he back pedalled (to coin a phrase) on cycling WEIRD!!!
Meanwhile over on the other thread - "Come on City of Edinburgh Council(lors) - most of this is in your hands."
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