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New traffic signs regulations

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  1. Wilmington's Cow
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    "When there are locations where a lot of people already cycle against the flow, why not make it legal?"

    Absolutely, yes. They should. It doesn't mean that it's not currently an illegal act, and in some places it annoys the residents. Got to balance priorities, look at why cyclists use that route, if there are alternatives that could be made more appealing etc. It's not black and white.

    "There's another 'informal' contraflow on Maryfield Place which pretty much works"

    Informal = illegal. Otherwise law-abiding cyclists. Etc etc.

    "I don't really understand the fierce opposition here"

    'Fierce'? Practical. Understanding the needs of others. Understanding the needs of cyclists. Offering other options and solutions and querying without blind acceptance. All of those perhaps. But 'fierce opposition'? In this thread?

    Posted 7 years ago #

  2. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    "Is that for (understandable) 'safety reasons' or are the supremely law-abiding?"

    Primarily safety. I could go into a long explanation, but they are incredibly legitimate concerns (especially in my friend's personal situation). But I also suspect it would lead to an argument here, so I'll leave it at that.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  3. Stephan Matthiesen
    Member

    @Wilmington's Cow "I also suspect it would lead to an argument here, so I'll leave it at that."

    Well, as you said before, this thread is about "Understanding the needs of others" and "Offering other options and solutions and querying without blind acceptance"...

    Posted 7 years ago #

  4. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    Indeed, and because there's a little less of that around these here parts of late I don't really want to go into it (especially as it's personal stuff with a very good friend).

    It's also the reason I haven't gone in for any seemingly false equivalence on the thread as well.

    Life's too short. I'd rather ride my bike and chill.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  5. Morningsider
    Member

    The UK's urban roads only "work" as everyone normally follows the rules of the road. Yes, there are lots of times this doesn't happen - but generally people behave pretty well. You can tell this is the case as someone misbehaving is pretty obvious to those around them. As a result, we all become used to expecting things to happen based on those rules - stop at red, going on green, driving on the left, giving way at junctions etc.

    Given this, I think riding the wrong way down a one-way street is both really obvious law breaking and also really dangerous - as people simply don't expect to encounter someone cycling the wrong way down a road.

    I use the contrafow cycle lane on Canaan Lane regularly and it is great. I wouldn't cycle down a one way street without a clearly defined contrafow lane.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  6. wingpig
    Member

    There's an except-bikes one-way on Hill Place, which I use rarely.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  7. Stephan Matthiesen
    Member

    @Wilmington's Cow: OK I get the hint. Sorry. Bye.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  8. Rob
    Member

    I've always found this one a bit curious. Are you supposed to dismount?

    EDIT: hah, never looked at it from the other side. Yes, you are.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  9. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    That dismount sign is (reasonably?) new I think. Certainly when I rode that way regularly a number of years back there was nothing, and you had to just guess. Just another example of the hotchpotch piecemeal way we go about these things in this city/country. There's not a light sequence that takes that contraflow into account, so most just waited for the green man and either walked or pedalled across.

    Generally something parked in it as well, but the main problem I had was entering it, with cars trying to overtake you, not expecting you to want to turn right into what they saw as a one-way street. It took a very strong primary from quite early on.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  10. chdot
    Admin

    "That dismount sign is (reasonably?) new I think."

    The actual actual sign might be.

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5934

    Posted 7 years ago #

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