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The only potential impact on me is that I sometimes like to take the kids down to the Meadows to use their bikes etc and park on Melville Drive. Would be a pain to have to park a distance from there (without paying)
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Edinburgh councillors agree to Sunday parking charges
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Posted 7 years ago #
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@CHdot re ''"every hour".
Is that for the illegal meter feeding??'
Paying by mobile phone seems to have the option to legally extend the parking time previously paid for, so no need to return to car to meter feed illegally.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Ok!
I thought the point of limited periods for parking was to 'make sure' cars moved. Has that changed or is this just where people pay for a period and then realise they need longer?
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I think the maximum (on George Street) is 3 hours. You are allowed to feed the meter up to this maximum so if you are returning to your car every hour you can do so twice before you need to move to a new group of parking bays. As slowcoach says you can do this top up remotely using your mobile but I assume the system will refuse to allow you to top-up more than the maximum permitted stay.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Sunday is different because it's different. And Sunday. And different.
Posted 7 years ago # -
So, to summarise: I don't go to church myself - but if I did, parking charges that only apply after services finish would stop me from going.
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I just find it weird when Tories object to the introduction of a pricing mechanism to ration access to a scarce resource. When did they suddenly come out as so hostile to the market?
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When did they suddenly come out as so hostile to the market?
When it gets them cheap points and headlines. Same as any other politician.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Paying for parking by mobile doesn't allow you to extend past the maximum time permissible (although the app itself does allow). I speak from experience. Ahem.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Just what is so special** about Edinburgh that it'll die completely if people have to pay a few quid to take their car in on a weekend?
As the attendees at Murrayfield CC would tell you, Edinburgh is unlike any other city on earth.
Posted 7 years ago # -
I'd find taking a car to Princes Street and shopping from there intolerable. Even taking a cycle down is something of a pain as you dot about shops. I don't want a fixed transport object I have to go back to or start pushing about. You get off the bus at one shop and then catch another at the other end.
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When it gets them cheap points and headlines. Same as any other politician.
There is that, but there is something more systematic in the way Tories also object to congestion charging. Some deep belief in their entitlement as drivers overrides normal reason.
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And if NCP and QPark start to charge for Sunday parking that's it, we're finished. Oh...wait.
Posted 7 years ago # -
No doubt this makes *sense* to her target readers -
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There is hardly anywhere to park, and if you do find a place, once you have paid the ever-increasing charges there’s no money left for new shoes or a plate of tapas.
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Posted 7 years ago # -
truly cognitive dissonance in action.
"People are being chased away from the centre of town by the price of parking. I find it hard to find a space. Paying £4 to park my £40,000 Range Rover is going to make all the difference to whether I buy a pair of shoes."
Nuts
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"once you have paid the ever-increasing charges there’s no money left for new shoes or a plate of tapas"
Shoes are that cheap?
Posted 7 years ago # -
the article is clearly just clickbait. I suspect she doesn't really believe a word of what she's writing.
Posted 7 years ago # -
In respect to the council subsiding parking the elephant in the room is residence parking.
The council heavily subsidizes residence parking, in George street a space would costs 1000s a year. If the council scrapped residence parking (something that would be politically impossible) and then charged for all spaces on a demand management basis could raise revenue and use resources more efficiently.
Or people could rent or buy their own space.
If there was no residence parking discounts, then people would choose to live with either public transport to work or nearer their work or in an area further from the centre less congested areas. The free parking for residence in centre encourages higher congestion as it encourages people to live in the centre and commute by car elsewhere. It may enable better land use if was not the subsidies as people may live in the centre than work there or get the train from the centre.
I don’t know what the Sunday prices will be but in respect to managing demand it may make more sense to have Sunday cheaper than weekdays when the roads have greater capacity free, maybe there will be few journeys to the centre, may be the some of the journeys that would have been on Sunday will be on a more busy weekday or Saturday.
Never noticed much congestion on Sunday (but don’t go to the centre much) so would tend to guess would have possibly been better with the cheaper parking sunday, although if this caused other traffic management issues such as parking on yellow lines would guess these would be the issues to resolve.
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not the shoes you buy PS but I remember when the Three Barrels pub under Frederick St closed. THey wrote on their blackboard at street level
Thanks to all our customers, especially the staff of Barratts Shoe Shop
[this shop was on princess street near the pub, the pub staff then provided the shoe shop mission statement on the blackboard as follows:-]
NO HOOF TOO CLOVEN
Personally I have just been down to EBC to pick up a very toasty pair of Specialised Winter Bootees and three rhubarb and crumble TorQ gels.
No pennies left for parking, oh wait, bikes go free
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Has anyone costed this per square metre?
So - how many parking spaces would it take to make the footprint for a dwelling? What would that be in terms of a plot of land to build a dwelling?
I look at the parking space around Sainsbury's at Murrayfield and wonder how many apartments you could build. Enough to house a few hundred?
Posted 7 years ago # -
@Charlethepar, probably she's miffed that she won't have spare change for a coffee at Harvey Nichols while the assistant is boxing her Manolo Blahniks.
@redmist, you're right she doesn't. Fiona Duff runs a PR consultancy. A paid liar, basically.
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not the shoes you buy PS
:-D This is true.
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Has anyone costed this per square metre?
It would be interesting to know the cost based on the retail- or office-space rent that could be achieved for the same area of land
Posted 7 years ago # -
@eddie_h - my guess is that the metal box dumpers are getting very good value for their money.
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The belief has developed over the last 50 or so years that everyone is entitled to a space of 12 sq metres on a public road. Of course there is no such right but it will be a devil of a job to disabuse people of that notion - at least in this country it will.
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@ih It's not everyone though, is it? I couldn't build a cycle storage unit and put it outside my flat, even though parking is free there.
It is amazing though. When people went about in horse-drawn vehicles, they didn't park them on the road. It would have been blocking the King's highway.
Posted 7 years ago # -
@Rosie Oh no. You can't do anything else, but you have a god-given right to leave your 2 tonnes of motorised metal outside.
When cars were first invented anyone who had one also had a chauffeur and he (for it was always a he) parked it somewhere in the stable area. Then after WWII as cars gradually became democratised there were still only a few, and those owners all lived in the suburbs with a driveway and a small garage, that their car would fit inside because they weren't the enormous monsters they are now, and then in the 60s and 70s everyone had to have one, or aspire to one, and there were no longer enough driveways, and the garages weren't big enough any more, so they spilled out onto the road, and that's where they've been ever since, and no one dares do anything about it.
Posted 7 years ago # -
"no one dares do anything about it"
Aye. Because The Great Car Economy (© M. Thatcher).
Posted 7 years ago # -
A Road Owning Democracy.
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