@steveo
I just did a Sid James type laugh.
It's not just bikes - folk are holding back on any large purchase outwith firearms and freeze-dried food. Here is news of vital car sales.
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“UK cycle industry predicted to sell 1 million fewer bikes this year“
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Posted 6 years ago #
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Some people say that aspartame is a toxin that is related to cancer but many dismiss as conspiracy the mainstream view is its a conspiracy .
However that aside it is still may cause insolence resistance like sugar and think that is still being considered. If gives the feeling of sugar taste of sweet may be it would be expected to cause similar issues to sugar. Aspartame may be the marlboro light of sugar a product that is sold as a safer alternative that is not that great.
Why if government nudge against sugar which may have effect of people switching to diet soft drinks may be akin incentive diesel cars over petrol by fixating on carbon not nox.Posted 6 years ago # -
It's not just bikes - folk are holding back on any large purchase outwith firearms and freeze-dried food. Here is news of vital car sales.
Just traded in the qashqai for APC, what price safety.
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BTW does anyone want to crowdfund a bunker?
A Scottish tenement with 600mm walls should be good enough to survive anything other than a nuclear direct-hit. One in Marchmont allegedly survived a WW2 bomb, with only broken windows.
@steveo
Qashqai one of the worst for emissions at 18 times the EU limit for NO2. Sorry.
The Qashqai N-Connecta DCI CVT (1598cc) produces 1.46g of NOx per kilometre. That is more than 18 times Europe's 0.08g/km limit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/how_toxic_is_your_car_exhaust
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@nedd1e_h but how defensible will they be when the inevitable cannibal gangs come calling? I have sash window concerns!
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Qashqai one of the worst for emissions at 18 times the EU limit for NO2. Sorry.
Why do you think I traded it in. Way too clean. Need something capable of burning crude in a push.
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http://www.nextgreencar.com/view-car/64709/nissan-qashqai-1.5-dci-visia-110ps-diesel-manual-6-speed/
it has aNOx:22 mg/km if the smaller engine 1.5 Worse than LAMBORGHINI Aventador 6.5 V12 Total NOx+PMs
6.32 mg/kmIt counter intuitive that the likes of Fiesta diesel is likely to be worse than a Ferrari
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It counter intuitive that the likes of Fiesta diesel is likely to be worse than a Ferrari
It depends on your measure really. CO2 vs NOx, (notionally) global vs local, rate at which limited resources are expended.
Odds are the supercar are better on all measure simply because they're driven so infrequently.
My old (2008) (petrol) Qashqai likley is a grade 2 planet killer but at less than 5k miles a year I'm not going to lose much sleep over its overall impact and whilst I could (maybe) replace it with something newer and cleaner I doubt in reality this would make a lot of ecologial sense. And since the wife refuses to go with out a car (for her own reasons) it might as well be that one.
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An old petrol is probably cleaner than a new diesel or petrol in respect to NOX. http://www.nextgreencar.com/view-car/27823/nissan-qashqai-1.6-2011-petrol-manual-5-speed/ NOx:9 mg/km
PM:0 mg/kmCompared to a new petrol http://www.nextgreencar.com/view-car/64704/nissan-qashqai-1.2-dig-t-visia-115ps-petrol-manual-5-speed/
NOx:23 mg/km
PM:0 mg/kmIn respect to CO yes new cars are less but in respect Nox not always
Its the same with fords if take a fiesta 1.2 ecoboast NOx:41 mg/km as high nox as diesel higher than the larger less tunned engine NOx:18 mg/km Fiesta 1.6 Zetec
PM:0 mg/km.The new small petrol turbo engines that are sold as the economy of diesel also often have higher nox than a lazier larger engine.
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From the article:
"What's causing this global slowdown in bike sales? If there's one single reason – and, in a complex world, this is unlikely – the reason would be fashion. "
Yep. Been saying this for years.
When you promote cycling as a sporting fad that's what happens. Few view cycling as "transport", no wonder the government usually fails to keep a straight face when cycling campaigners link the two concepts.
Okay we have hills and it's windy. But people on these islands are also a bunch of lazy so-and-soes.
On the other foot:
"Looking on the bright side, there are UK manufacturing companies, such as Pashley and Brompton, which are thriving, and not just because the weaker pound boosts their export earnings."
Must be the Brexit voters Buying British...
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@Ed1
The NOx figures from the manufacturers cannot be relied upon. From the BBC article, only 3 cars meet the EU 80mg/km requirement in real-world driving conditions
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Just maybe the bikes that are being bought now last longer as they are better made, and there are better facilities for maintenance.
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@msj, Oh my sides! Take your idea, reverse it.
The bikes may be lasting longer, but it's likely because they are hardly ever used...
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On my daily commute I see dozens more bikes than I did 20 years ago. I spent a lot on my bike in 99 and its lasted, with a mix of me tinkering and semi regular bike shop work. And I thought modal share was up in Edinburgh; Spokes certainly argue it is, albeit not to the level of the 30's.
Exception might be kids bikes, particularly as the council allows every space to be built on with more Barratt boxes.
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@mgj, transport modal share for cycling is up in Edinburgh, London and a few other exceptional urban areas: mostly university towns like Cambridge, York etc. which had high cycling levels historically anyway.
Most of Scotland sits stubbornly at 1% to 2% share for cycling as transport: I daresay it's similar to many areas of the UK in this respect.
Most of the growth in bike sales has probably been for sport/leisure cycling, which is very faddish and prone to peaks and troughs. It's been the same story since the 1960s when cars became the "aspirational" choice for transport. See Carlton Reid's "Bike Boom" for a full account.
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