@gembo: Banging on about roads and carriage ways when the issue is about parking is very Weberian
All the more reason not to give the other side the opportunity to indulge in such distraction tactics.
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@gembo: Banging on about roads and carriage ways when the issue is about parking is very Weberian
All the more reason not to give the other side the opportunity to indulge in such distraction tactics.
I had thought that the Highway Code advises reversing into your drive rather than reversing out into traffic but I can't find such advice.
(My parents used to live on a road where the speed limit was allegedly 30mph but people didn't always stick to it... They preferred to drive in and reverse out - it makes sense in that you are reversing into the bigger space and so take less time to make the maneuver. I think... certainly we children knew we'd been assessed as competent drivers by our parents when we were allowed to reverse out of the drive (rather than a parent doing the reversing and then pulling over to swap drivers).)
@fimm, It's rule 201
"Do not reverse from a side road into a main road. When using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can."
I cycled up Lanark Road this afternoon, which allowed me to count the number of parked vehicles on the stretch which will have cycle lanes added.
Given:
Would anyone care to guess how many vehicles I counted?
20.
Higher.
21
...
46.
Less than half the spaces needed and yet it is unacceptable How Weberian.
Indeed.
It's possible that most of the population of Lanark Road was out for a drive on a horrible December Sunday afternoon, but I suspect not.
"It's possible that most of the population of Lanark Road was out for a drive on a horrible December Sunday afternoon, but I suspect not."
All out at the supermarché doing some No Deal Brexit stockpiling, innit.
@frenchy, should you be at a loose end check out the empty drive ways
In the olden days at the Gillespie x roads end heading east it had become quite a big car
Park for people catching the no 44 into Edinburgh.
Each household owning more than one car is also a factor
Park for people catching the no 44 into Edinburgh.
Same (but probably not on such a scale) as Comiston Road just north of the Fairmilehead traffic lights. I used to get the 11 from opposite Tusitala The Charwood and would regularly see folks driving up, parking and coming to catch the bus in to town. Largely thwarted now by Spaces for People (not cars) - although there are parking spaces just north of Caiystane Crescent, they don't seem to be being used the same way.
See also Mounthooly Loan: during Lockdown #1 it was very noticeable how much more pleasant it was to walk and cycle that way during the week without the litter of cars all up the west side. As soon as lockdown eased it started to get busy again, and my gut feel is that it's now more so than ever with drivers displaced from Comiston Road.
Colinton Road around Meggetland, and the streets off, also get used as unofficial park and rides for the 10 and 27. I suspect that, cumulatively, there's a lot of it goes on around the periphery of the city.
The survey has been commissioned by a group that is dedicated to foiling improvements, so after getting halfway through I decided to boycott it instead. As well as saving a lot of time filling in the form, it might be more effective just to say that we're not going to participate in a rigged ballot..
6. Do you feel you that you personally have been consulted on these proposed changes?
Who you me you personally?
I thought about boycotting the survey - it's ridiculously biased - but figured that it's probably embarrassing if even a biased survey can't get the result they want.
If you want to, this is the actual link
https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/CityofEdinburghProposalsSurvey?
By “independent research company”
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/SC380957/officers
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Steven is the former Head of Communications for the Scottish Labour Party, where he advised senior Labour politicians on strategy and polling. He was instrumental in helping devise the strategy for the successful 2001, 2005, 2010 General Elections in Scotland
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Tempted to not tick live/work/commute/shop/etc. and insist that I visit the area solely to park there now that I can no longer park on Links Gardens, but that I still support the measures.
He was instrumental in helping devise the strategy for the successful 2001, 2005, 2010 General Elections in Scotland
Hardest job in the world was that. Clawing Labour votes out of the clenched fists of Scotland's massed ranks of Tory voters.
Won't be a coincidence though. Ian Murray will be all over this one.
An "independent research company" of any worth should be utterly embarrassed at having anything to do with that survey.
Well I answered the questions and commented -
“It is disappointing that this survey has such loaded questions.
It is clearly designed to get people to agree with a particular point of view
Whether the creator or instigator of this survey like what has been done or not the fact remains that a lot of things have been done because of Covid - notably a myriad of restrictions and lockdowns - without ‘adequate consultation’ and in ways that are far from perfect.
The concerns of this survey are, by comparison, trivial.
Calls for ‘proper consultation’ are bogus and merely designed to halt things that might inconvenience a small minority which have been planned (as a matter of urgency) to (try to) improve public health and safety.”
Won't be a coincidence though. Ian Murray will be all over this one.
Surely Ian Murray is busy enough undermining the active travel projects in his own constituency to worry about those outwith it?
Much more Weberian I would guess
Ah yes, wrong scheme in my head. Mistaken again. Ms Webber it is, but I'll maintain that she got this guy's number from Mr Murray.
If I've learned anything from biased surveys it's that the results will be spun to prove what the creator wants, regardless of who fills it in.
Only reason I didn't put the direct link from here was for that reason. If they are knowledgeable enough they might search for any links to their survey. Once they see a *gasp* radical activist's forum such as this, it gives them an out. It's a local survey for local people you know.
"Restricting cyclists to an inside lane which can often be poorly maintained (including potholes) and which could limit safe overtaking of slower cyclists"
This option alone reveals the bias of the author. They seem to think the presence of a cycle lane means anyone on a bike is forced to remain in it, regardless of the situation. How do they imagine anyone turns right?
The local balerno chapter of the Susan Never Let the facts get in the way of my opinion Weber phalange are trying to say this has an impact on everyone in Balerno.
I have asked if they mean by helping us to cycle more safely.
They don’t.
I have pointed out it is a parking issue and that we are not entitled to park right outside our houses though many of expect to do so even on roads where this had contributed to death.
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