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  • Started 3 years ago by I were right about that saddle
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  1. ejstubbs
    Member

    @gembo: Banging on about roads and carriage ways when the issue is about parking is very Weberian

    All the more reason not to give the other side the opportunity to indulge in such distraction tactics.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. fimm
    Member

    I had thought that the Highway Code advises reversing into your drive rather than reversing out into traffic but I can't find such advice.

    (My parents used to live on a road where the speed limit was allegedly 30mph but people didn't always stick to it... They preferred to drive in and reverse out - it makes sense in that you are reversing into the bigger space and so take less time to make the maneuver. I think... certainly we children knew we'd been assessed as competent drivers by our parents when we were allowed to reverse out of the drive (rather than a parent doing the reversing and then pulling over to swap drivers).)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. acsimpson
    Member

    @fimm, It's rule 201

    "Do not reverse from a side road into a main road. When using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can."

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. Frenchy
    Member

    I cycled up Lanark Road this afternoon, which allowed me to count the number of parked vehicles on the stretch which will have cycle lanes added.

    Given:

    • The council's plans include parking spaces for 98 vehicles.
    • The disquiet in some quarters at the reduction in parking space in the plans.

    Would anyone care to guess how many vehicles I counted?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. gembo
    Member

    20.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. Frenchy
    Member

    Higher.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  7. gembo
    Member

    21

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. Frenchy
    Member

    ...

    46.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. gembo
    Member

    Less than half the spaces needed and yet it is unacceptable How Weberian.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. Frenchy
    Member

    Indeed.

    It's possible that most of the population of Lanark Road was out for a drive on a horrible December Sunday afternoon, but I suspect not.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  11. crowriver
    Member

    "It's possible that most of the population of Lanark Road was out for a drive on a horrible December Sunday afternoon, but I suspect not."

    All out at the supermarché doing some No Deal Brexit stockpiling, innit.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. gembo
    Member

    @frenchy, should you be at a loose end check out the empty drive ways

    In the olden days at the Gillespie x roads end heading east it had become quite a big car
    Park for people catching the no 44 into Edinburgh.

    Each household owning more than one car is also a factor

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. ejstubbs
    Member

    Park for people catching the no 44 into Edinburgh.

    Same (but probably not on such a scale) as Comiston Road just north of the Fairmilehead traffic lights. I used to get the 11 from opposite Tusitala The Charwood and would regularly see folks driving up, parking and coming to catch the bus in to town. Largely thwarted now by Spaces for People (not cars) - although there are parking spaces just north of Caiystane Crescent, they don't seem to be being used the same way.

    See also Mounthooly Loan: during Lockdown #1 it was very noticeable how much more pleasant it was to walk and cycle that way during the week without the litter of cars all up the west side. As soon as lockdown eased it started to get busy again, and my gut feel is that it's now more so than ever with drivers displaced from Comiston Road.

    Colinton Road around Meggetland, and the streets off, also get used as unofficial park and rides for the 10 and 27. I suspect that, cumulatively, there's a lot of it goes on around the periphery of the city.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. Moose
    Member

  15. Dave
    Member

    The survey has been commissioned by a group that is dedicated to foiling improvements, so after getting halfway through I decided to boycott it instead. As well as saving a lot of time filling in the form, it might be more effective just to say that we're not going to participate in a rigged ballot..

    Posted 3 years ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    6. Do you feel you that you personally have been consulted on these proposed changes?

    Who you me you personally?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  17. jonty
    Member

    I thought about boycotting the survey - it's ridiculously biased - but figured that it's probably embarrassing if even a biased survey can't get the result they want.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    If you want to, this is the actual link

    https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/CityofEdinburghProposalsSurvey?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    By “independent research company”

    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/SC380957/officers

    Steven is the former Head of Communications for the Scottish Labour Party, where he advised senior Labour politicians on strategy and polling. He was instrumental in helping devise the strategy for the successful 2001, 2005, 2010 General Elections in Scotland

    http://www.redcircle.org.uk/portfolio.php

    Posted 3 years ago #
  20. wingpig
    Member

    Tempted to not tick live/work/commute/shop/etc. and insist that I visit the area solely to park there now that I can no longer park on Links Gardens, but that I still support the measures.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  21. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    He was instrumental in helping devise the strategy for the successful 2001, 2005, 2010 General Elections in Scotland

    Hardest job in the world was that. Clawing Labour votes out of the clenched fists of Scotland's massed ranks of Tory voters.

    Won't be a coincidence though. Ian Murray will be all over this one.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  22. Frenchy
    Member

    An "independent research company" of any worth should be utterly embarrassed at having anything to do with that survey.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    Well I answered the questions and commented -

    “It is disappointing that this survey has such loaded questions.

    It is clearly designed to get people to agree with a particular point of view

    Whether the creator or instigator of this survey like what has been done or not the fact remains that a lot of things have been done because of Covid - notably a myriad of restrictions and lockdowns - without ‘adequate consultation’ and in ways that are far from perfect.

    The concerns of this survey are, by comparison, trivial.

    Calls for ‘proper consultation’ are bogus and merely designed to halt things that might inconvenience a small minority which have been planned (as a matter of urgency) to (try to) improve public health and safety.”

    Posted 3 years ago #
  24. Frenchy
    Member

    Won't be a coincidence though. Ian Murray will be all over this one.

    Surely Ian Murray is busy enough undermining the active travel projects in his own constituency to worry about those outwith it?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  25. Moose
    Member

    Much more Weberian I would guess

    Posted 3 years ago #
  26. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Ah yes, wrong scheme in my head. Mistaken again. Ms Webber it is, but I'll maintain that she got this guy's number from Mr Murray.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  27. Rob
    Member

    If I've learned anything from biased surveys it's that the results will be spun to prove what the creator wants, regardless of who fills it in.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  28. Moose
    Member

    Only reason I didn't put the direct link from here was for that reason. If they are knowledgeable enough they might search for any links to their survey. Once they see a *gasp* radical activist's forum such as this, it gives them an out. It's a local survey for local people you know.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  29. Rob
    Member

    "Restricting cyclists to an inside lane which can often be poorly maintained (including potholes) and which could limit safe overtaking of slower cyclists"

    This option alone reveals the bias of the author. They seem to think the presence of a cycle lane means anyone on a bike is forced to remain in it, regardless of the situation. How do they imagine anyone turns right?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  30. gembo
    Member

    The local balerno chapter of the Susan Never Let the facts get in the way of my opinion Weber phalange are trying to say this has an impact on everyone in Balerno.

    I have asked if they mean by helping us to cycle more safely.

    They don’t.

    I have pointed out it is a parking issue and that we are not entitled to park right outside our houses though many of expect to do so even on roads where this had contributed to death.

    Posted 3 years ago #

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