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@ LivD
"I would have expected the surface they'd put down to have been sprinkled with aggregate before it set"
That's what I was expecting to see, which is why I was surprised to see something more like an ice rink. If they don't put a rough surface down, it's just asking for incidents to occur.
Buffstrip is quite tacky in the dry but I suspect it'll be very different in the wet.
Passed that the other day. If I was cycling for first time I would follow strip as that is obviously the main cycle route with priority (?!) 100 times more visible than anything on the QBC.
Maybe picking it up wrong though.
yeah that's what i thought, passing through...
what's this beige strip... does it mean i have right of way... nah its just some weird unfinished thing.. ?!
Funny wingpig me spotting you Thursday afternoon. I was heading to Haymarket to meet friends for an evening cycle. We waited for one of our groups girlfriend to turn up as she was lost. Turns out she was at Craigleith (stopped in your video), just before you turn east to see me pass by.
Went and had a look yesterday (thought it might be a good way to get home from Stockbridge... ended up in the Sainsburys/retail park car park and then spotted another cyclist and followed them and found the way!).
The beige strip is very weird and random. I couldn't decide if I thought it was slippy or not. They've got the notice board up, and I wished I'd had my phone with me to take a photo of that. One side has some stuff about Criagleith Quarry, but the other has a map of cycling routes and also a list of times for cycling or walking to various destinations.
Pity the notice board hadn't been there a day earlier so that DaveC's associate could have used it.
I assume they only have one buff-stuff-laying-machine available and it broke down, or perhaps there was only one tub of the buff gunk on the shelf so have laid just half of a third of the width of the path then left it for several days, unless they noticed when they'd finished it that it looked a bit slippy and retreated to re-think.
Cycling round there this morning, the beige surface appears shiney in the sunlight. I had originally assumed it was anti slip (sand in paint etc) but I wonder how bikes will fair when its wet?
Does anyone know what the buff strip is actually for? If it was finished, I still don't think I have any clue what its purpose is.
its in the initial proposed layout
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mkbylj5vr1k0cg4/Craigleith%20Cycle%20Junction-Layout1.pdf
as a "bonded surfacing in buff" which is supposed to be along the entire width and length of the path between Maidenhead Crescent and South Groathill Avenue.
If its supposed to give old ladies heading for Sainsbury's the confidence that they have right of way, then its a stupid idea, as cyclists heading from any of the other directions will only see it momentarily, and wonder what it is.
I suppose the overall idea is that it is supposed to work in combination with the rumble strips.
A curate's egg laid by the planners.
Maybe it will all magically make sense when the give way signs are "installed".
I spoke to the council engineer this evening on the A90. He confirmed that the new beige surface at Craigleith is anti slip. I mentioned that it looks shiney and slippery and he did confirm looking at it himself it does look shiny and slippery but assured me that it is anti slip. He also said that the contractors had calculated the amount needed but this fell short and as the anti slip surface was made to order, as it is not a standard colour, the contractors have had to order more of this new non standard beige colour anti slip surface and this is holding up the progression of the works.
He also said the new bespoke barriers are to be 3m apart so cycle trailers can get through.
So I went over this way tonight in the dark coming from Roseburn - travelling a reasonable speed. I was half looking out for the magical buff strip (and half asleep) when I went over the rumble strips, which i hadn't noticed in the dark.
They certainly woke me up...
Looking back I saw that they are positioned in a dark patch midway between 2 lamp posts.
Can't say I'm a fan and think they could bring some excitement to others once commuting in the dark returns.
If anything has happened since Friday it's very subtle...
@ HankChief
"... I went over the rumble strips, which i hadn't noticed in the dark.
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Looking back I saw that they are positioned in a dark patch midway between 2 lamp posts.
Can't say I'm a fan and think they could bring some excitement to others once commuting in the dark returns."
That's the same concern I voiced a fortnight ago - the existing lighting means these strips are poorly lit.
I don't know if any thing will progress until the additional beige surface is ready to go down.
It looks to me like the contractors ordered less than half of what they needed.
DaveC was it you I noticed talking to a man with a clipboard at one of the muddy dips just before Barnbougle as you head out of town?
Are they planning to upgrade that section soon? Just catching up on other threads so I see you've answered that question in the relevant place.
Yes and Yes, The council chapie says they are starting the section 5 (between new bit from last year to Burnshot Jct) in May for 16 weeks!
Section 3 is planned but they look to be in the 'wondering what to do' stage. So thya are canvasing opinion. There are threee basic designs,
3m wide path, with a grass divider between path & road,
2.5m wide path with armco barrier
2.5m wide with armco barrier and some sort of light barrier (like those green bars further into town on the A90), to stop light blinding cyclists. They recon typical cyclists are 1.5m high and were asking if the most light came from cars of road (reflected off surface in the wet).
DaveC was it you I noticed talking to a man with a clipboard at one of the muddy dips just before Barnbougle as you head out of town?
Yes, stop me next time and say hi won't you?
"They reckon typical cyclists are 1.5m high ..."
LOL, family friendly network, or maybe not, given that these are the people planning the infrastructure. Your hips are certainly further from the ground on a bike than walking (assuming your seat is at the correct height (and you are riding an upright frame)) but I'm not sure if your head is. Depends on your position, I guess.
@DaveC, I might have stopped but as I was in a car at the time I thought it would probably be a bad idea. We passed so quickly I'm not sure I would even recognise you I'm afraid.
@fimm, Most current users of the path are probably shorter when they are on their bikes. But in the utopian future of mass bike use where leisure cycling is the norm we may see many more upright riders.
@ Fimm,
My mistake, I think I may have misheard the chap, it may have been more like 2.5m
I spoke to the council engineer this evening on the A90. He confirmed that the new beige surface at Craigleith is anti slip. I mentioned that it looks shiney and slippery and he did confirm looking at it himself it does look shiny and slippery but assured me that it is anti slip. He also said that the contractors had calculated the amount needed but this fell short and as the anti slip surface was made to order, as it is not a standard colour, the contractors have had to order more of this new non standard beige colour anti slip surface and this is holding up the progression of the works.
If I was a gambling man I would suggest that this beige stuff is supposed to be mixed with gravel as per the Meadows paths junction, thereby creating a non-slip surface. I suspect that the lack of additional material is why they ran out of the stuff. As it is it looks as non-slip as a very slippy thing.
Apprently it is a new no slip material, but you are right it looks shiney and we associate this as being slippery.
I did ask why they didn't just use the same stuff as the lead up to traffic lights on the road, a sandy type of paint. I don't recall if he answered me.
I went that way with a camera this evening:
I thought it might be a bit hard to read, so here are the two halves.
Spot the mistake(s)! Potentially two.
(And I don't mean the omission of "Control your children" for peds) ;-)
Cute signage
God bless the ongoing largess of the CEC cycling budget
Crammond seems quite far in land on the map. On the whole quite helpful, hope sun does not bleach it.
What is it about Carricknowe that makes it so hard to place (only once)!?
It's on the map twice (together with the A90)
Also confused them with the new route signs on this thread.
Do you think we should arrange to give CEC a guided tour to Carricknowe, so they know where it is?
hope sun does not bleach it
it should be tagged and burned by autumn anyway.
same with the beige strip -- primo graffiti magnet
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