CityCyclingEdinburgh was launched on the 27th of October 2009 as "an experiment".
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CCE is 14years old!
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Oddly, we'd noticed the duplicate "A90" but not the duplicate Carricknowe!
I quite like the way the cycle routes just stop (at Bonnington, or the lower of the two 75s, for example) - a good illustration of the lack of network for cycling; when you get here, you're on your own...
Oh my word, that map is utterly, utterly appalling.
The mis-placed placenames are the least of its worries (D'Mains also wrong). How can such rubbish get produced and signed off? As someone who loves maps I'm offended!
Get me the dimensions of the map on the board and I'll design and print a better one to cover it up with!
Kaputnik, that's a genius idea. Constructive vandalism, I like it.
I'm afaid I won't be going that way again until after the Easter weekend. Can any of the regulars oblige?
Shall pop past again this evening.
The map would be fine, if you had another map e.g. The spokes one with you?
That map would be fine if you had a map that was accurate and wasn't completely made up with you, yes.
That map is horrendous. I'm having to really think to work out which is the canal towpath, the Broomhouse-Stenhouse-Balgreen path and the Roseburn Park to Russell Road path. And I've been using most of those routes for 20 years.
Carrick Knowe is surely easy: north of the railway, south of Corstorphine Road, and east of Corstorphine itself.
I'll design and print a better one to cover it up with!
You could start by making the main roads not look like rivers, and making the cycle routes easier to see against the white background!
Anyway it's Carrick Knowe (not a good enough reason to name it twice).
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I have severe reservations about designating the Granton - Trinity section as "on-road cycle route".
Includes Lower Granton Road!!
"Just for example, say we're at Dovecot Road. Firstly, do we really need to be told that Carrick Knowe is 500m away? Is this useful information? And what does it mean? The shops are 500m away? Where are the shops?Secondly, what are the chances that we will be visiting the zoo today? How often do you go to the zoo? If you don't know where it is, what are you doing on Dovecot Road? Are you lost? If you don't know where it is, why have you not planned your route before setting out?"
It really is a ridiculously bad map, isn't it?
If I was looking at that with no prior knowledge of the area, I'd have no idea what was what and where I was going. In fact, even with that knowledge I wouldn't trust it!
I imagine 'North Carrick Knowe" was supposed to be Corstorphine, even though it's still poorly placed. But the A90 blunder is the craziest of them all.
Haymarket is also terribly placed, you'd be doing well to get there using the map. However it would provide enough detail to at least send you in the correct starting direction and hopefully from there on you could follow the blue signs.
620mm across. From the bottom of the map to the shortest points at the edge it's 430mm. Didn't measure to the top of the arc in the middle.
There's a new blue sign at the entrance to Inverleith Park at Inverleith Terr/Arboretum Pl that points the way to "Criagleith" (on both faces of the west-pointing side). Sorry, no pic - didn't have my phone with me.
"Criagleith"
I assume that's not your spelling!!(?)
Correct assumption. I should have sic'd it. Tweeted to North Team.
This is the URL on the signboard at Criagleith -
Link to PDF of cycling by design here
more user friendly in some ways than link posted earlier in thread.
Some more buff has gone down today, and some give way white lines.
Highly undramatic video, in the best CCE style:
Shows you how observant I am - I was going the opposite way tonight and failed to spot the new additions! Must've been concentrating too much on the other bikes and pedestrians on the crossing. Or else I'm just dozy.
How do you keep your hatcam pointing straight forward while you're looking around before crossing the junction?
eyeballs on stalks
I guess your eyeballs can move separately to your skull, who knew? :D
That said, there is quite an interesting video from this morning where it's really obvious when I clock a driver with a mobile, as my head does a comedy 'lock on' as they approach.. might post it at some point if I can be bothered, since they're both smoking and phoning while driving.
I've got a guy on camera smoking and texting while rolling into an ASL on red.
First (reported) injury -
I spent a bit of time at the Craigleith Junction today while waiting for someone & I think it is a bit of a disaster. I can understand why it might be felt necessary to slow the through traffic from Telford to Roseburn but the problem is that it has now created a conflict. Whether it is because people are used to just going straight through on the 'main line' or whether it is because the path naturally prioritisies that route, but what is happening now is that a large proportion of people are not stopping at the Give Way, while people crossing from/to Craigleith are assuming (because of the paint) that they are the ones to have priority. This is only going to end badly.
I think it is wrong to mess with the normal flow of the junction, especially with a set of markings which have no legal basis. There just isn't going to be a safe level of compliance. You would have to be particularly brave to rely on the markings to keep you safe when crossing the main path. I also still think that the beige paint looks anything but non-slip.
The loose stones being kicked out of the surround of the new central island aren't helping. It felt like cycling over marbles this morning - the wheels were sliding around on them too much for my liking.
Thinking about Craigleith work in progress...
Surely the main traffic line is the route from Granton and Silverknowes to Roseburn.
The marking seems to be trying to establish precedence for the lesser route. By marking it in a lighter colour it is even suggesting it has a status way above anything seen on some recent on road cycle lanes.
Are there give ways on all path directions (I hope)? Why is the bright non slip not on the main direction of fast travel approaching this junction?
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