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  1. Stickman
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    Also upthread why I said I agreed with the idea of abolishing corporation tax. It's much harder for an individual to hide income liable to tax if they can't use layers of companies, subsidiaries, etc etc.

    While I don't agree with a land tax I think we both agree that the current tax system is broken!

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. chdot
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    @GeorgeFoulkes: Straws in wind pointing to turning of tide both North & South of border. Putting money on Labour wins at Westminster in 2015 & Holyrood 2016

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    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. chdot
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    OFFICIAL papers have rev­ealed that efforts to transfer control of income tax over to Scotland have run into serious difficulties because HM Revenues and Customs is struggling to work out who Scottish taxpayers are.

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    http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scots-income-tax-transfer-runs-into-difficulties-1-3627424

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. Instography
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    It's a bit overdone. Most taxpayers are pretty straightforward - they live in Scotland so will be a Scottish taxpayer. The only complexity is a relatively small number of people with more than one residence. And of them the only really difficult ones are those for whom HMRC has an address in England but who, on proper consideration of the time they spend living in Scotland, should be considered Scottish taxpayers. HMRC has no way of knowing that they should be taxed at Scottish rates unless those people change their address to a Scottish address and so far they have no incentive to do so. But still, the Scottish rate will be announced in November 2015 and will come into effect in April 2016. Between those dates, the coding notices will go out to tell every taxpayer in Scotland that they are a Scottish taxpayer.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Oh, I can't wait to see how higher rate tax relief on pension contributions works. Anybody thinks two income tax rates in one country is easy is about to get an object lesson in fiscal swamp construction.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. kaputnik
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    This could go on a number of threads, but implications are mainly in the realms of the political / 2015 General Election;

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/hinds-given-ultimatum-over-position-on-bus-board-1-3627016

    Workers at Lothian Buses have threatened to withdraw their support from Councillor Lesley Hinds’ Scottish Parliament election bid over her handling of a boardroom row at the firm.

    The Lothian Buses branch of union Unite has called on the city transport leader to leave the position on the board of the company that she was parachuted into just three weeks ago. It is understood staff at the company also want Unite support for Cllr Hinds’ bid for a seat in the Scottish Parliament to be withdrawn, potentially dealing her a serious blow in a marginal constituency and delivering a “huge coup” to the SNP, according to an insider.

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  7. chdot
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  8. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I predict a riot.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  9. cc
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    I'm sure Labour in Edinburgh South West will be overrun by eager helpers in the weeks and months leading up to the Westminster election, all enthused and happy to have the chance to support the famous John McTernan and get him elected to the Mother of Parliaments.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  10. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @cc

    I'm sure the BBC will step in where local enthusiasts are lacking.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  11. kaputnik
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    The McTernan-Murphy dream team. Blairism alive and well in Scottish Labour the Scottish parish of Labour?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  12. chdot
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    UPDATE: McTernan denies the story to Guido.

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    http://order-order.com/2014/12/08/another-london-born-labour-adviser-parachuted-up-north

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  13. chdot
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    NEW opinion poll statistics have given a big boost to SNP hopes of a major breakthrough in Edinburgh at next year’s general election.

    he figures from Populus suggest the party has 35 per cent support in the Capital, an increase of 23 per cent since the last Westminster election in 2010. To make matters even worse for Labour, the Tories emerge in second place in Edinburgh on 25 per cent support – up 5.9 per cent since 2010.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/general-election-2015-poll-gives-snp-major-boost-1-3628337

    Posted 9 years ago #
  14. chdot
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  15. chdot
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    Over a quarter of people who voted for Labour in Scotland in 2010 will back the SNP next year, according to YouGov polling. Analysis by The Times Red Box shows 28% of Labour voters from the last election say they now plan to vote for the Scottish nationalists in the Westminster election.

    The previous electoral phenomenon of people voting SNP in Holyrood elections and Labour in Westminster elections looks like it may have potentially disappeared. The SNP’s post-referendum boost has not disappeared, with almost three months of polling showing their new levels of support has sustained.

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    http://www.labourlist.org/2014/12/scottish-labour-could-lose-over-a-quarter-of-voters-to-snp

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  16. chdot
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    For as its opponents are never slow to point out, the SNP, as a party of power, has its own top-down and centralising tendencies. And if one legacy of this referendum year is a sense of grassroots energy and empowerment that not only inspires similar movements across the Border, and begins to shake the UK political establishment, but also sets a more energetic, radical and demanding agenda for our own local authorities and national government here in Scotland, then that will be an achievement to celebrate, in or out of our increasingly fractious United Kingdom.

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    http://www.scotsman.com/news/joyce-macmillan-path-to-change-lined-with-desire-1-3632394

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  17. Instography
    Member

    This whole grassroots thing is a bit overblown, no?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    "This whole grassroots thing"

    The future, no future, or?

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  19. chdot
    Admin

    Jim & Kezia

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  20. LaidBack
    Member

    Was result a surprise?

    They could attend POP then in tandem. Kezia has in the past.

    Thought being Blairite was not considered an advantage in Scotland with the 'war on terror' hangover likely to drag on?

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  21. chdot
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    The challenge for himself and Dugdale was: “How do we make Scotland the fairest nation on the planet?”

    Acknowledging the amount of work facing him before the general election, with Labour trailing in the polls compared with a surge in support for the SNP, he said that polls “are there to be proved wrong”.

    “I know there’s a huge amount of work to do in a really short period of time,” Murphy said. “I am confident that we will hold all [the Westminster seats] that we have. Any seat that the SNP tries to win from Labour increases the chance of David Cameron having an overall majority and I’m determined that won’t happen. We’ve had one referendum and we’re going to have another referendum in May, and it’s on whether Scotland genuinely wants rid of David Cameron.”

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    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/14/snp-scottish-labour-murphy-poll

    Posted 9 years ago #
  22. chdot
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    One of those vanity-soaked prophecies that are fun to cut out and return to the light after the prophecies tumble to the ground like cyclists on ice.

    Is he really idiotic enough to believe this sort of wild forecast?

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    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/14/snp-scottish-labour-murphy-poll#comment-44957507

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  23. chdot
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    Scotland's former chief medical officer Sir Harry Burns would be a new adviser looking at the issue of inequality.

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    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=21&replies=683#post-174173

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  24. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    No immediate boost to the BLP;

    http://blog.whatscotlandthinks.org/2014/12/murphy-proves-magic-bullet-labour/

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  25. chdot
    Admin

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    He believes the way to improve health and wellbeing is by making people want to look after themselves, be well and be active because they believe life is worth living.

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    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/jobs--families-best-medicine-4848782

    (And a lot more interesting quotes.)

    Posted 9 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    17 weeks to go until the UK/Westminster election.

    Today the campaigning/politicking has started in ernest.

    Going to try to treat it as a spectator sport and not comment (until nearer the time!)

    It will be interesting to see how many candidates 'feel the need' to appear at PoP.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    Unfortunately 'cycling' has already been mentioned in the election campaign.

    The Conservatives have produced a document drawing together everything they consider to be a Labour spending promise.

    This is one the BBC has chosen to highlight -

    So Labour says it's 'not true'.

    If they form a Government does that mean they won't spend any money?

    Does seem to suggest that Conservatives think it's 'unaffordable' - or perhaps not enough??

    Posted 9 years ago #
  28. kaputnik
    Moderator

    This is the new dark arts of politics. Rather than saying what they intend to do, each side claims what they think the other might be intending to do. Both sides can then deny what the other says they are going to do as idle speculation (i.e. "nonsense") on the part of the other, thereby committing to nothing and leaving the voter thoroughly confused as to who is promising what in a race to the bottom to determine which of the parties is most best least worst, when they're probably evens.

    Expect a Tory campaign based on "what Labour will blow big sums of money on" with a Labour response of "we're going to cut just as much as the Tories, but in a different way and a Labour campaign based on "we're not them, honest, although we're basically promising to spend the same way they do". And a Libdem campaign of "Please, for the love of God, please vote for us! We can change, we'll try harder. We're not like that lot! Don't go, we need these seats - we've got second mortgages to pay for! Policies? Oh we'll do pretty much the same as the other lot, but we'll do it in a fairer way"

    There was a short Adam Curtis piece on this in 2014 Wipe.

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  29. chdot
    Admin

    http://electionforecast.co.uk

    (As used by Newsnight)

    Posted 9 years ago #
  30. acsimpson
    Member

    Don't forget SNP's rather successful policy of vote for us because we don't persecute motorists like the others, broom broom.

    Posted 9 years ago #

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