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Do we need an EU referendum thread? (Brexit thread)

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  • Started 7 years ago by I were right about that saddle
  • Latest reply from LaidBack

  1. chdot
    Admin

    “There's your 'whatever reason'.“

    Well quite, but I think it’s also related to his complete failure to understand why this might look different in the rest of the EU -

    “after 45 years of [UK] membership they are not willing”

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Aye, that's another layer of lunacy. "I've been a member of this golf club for forty five years and now that I've left I expect to park my car on the first green."

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

  4. steveo
    Member

    Watching the news with Boris talking, it's so infuriating that no one can/will hold this utter moron to account with his bloody "oven ready deal"

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    Maybe he forgot to turn the oven on(?)

    Posted 2 years ago #
  6. minus six
    Member

    out of the chaos we divide

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    Posted 2 years ago #
  7. I were right about that saddle
    Member

  8. gembo
    Member

    Good old KBJ, scouts handshake too

    Posted 2 years ago #
  9. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Beats a Sicilian handshake.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    I don’t mind a Sicilian handshake so much the one that scarred me for life was the Sicilian that went wrong

    Posted 2 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    Downing Street has refused to restart Brexit deal negotiations despite Michael Gove performing a U-turn at the dispatch box in which he praised a “constructive move” by the EU minutes after declaring the talks “effectively ended”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/19/brexit-gove-praises-constructive-move-as-eu-agrees-to-intensify-talks

    Posted 2 years ago #
  12. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    It's like watching a drunk clown impersonator wearing boxing gloves finally, after many comical mishaps, get the flintlock pistol loaded and fired into his own head.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

  14. crowriver
    Member

    "Voters who switched to Tories could easily swing back if factory jobs go"

    It will all be far too late by 2024...

    Sayonara, UK manufacturing.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  15. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Manufacturing will now be based on fish scales. That fish scales are an unexploited source of wealth is so patently obvious that I shall not waste further keystrokes explaining why.

    Also the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man are part of the UK of GB&NI, by declaration of the Daily Telegraph.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    “Also the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man are part of the UK of GB&NI, by declaration of the Daily Telegraph.“

    Expect that that map shows NI isn’t part of UK.

    Curious.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  17. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Nothing curious about it. Nobody wants that nest of (inter)nationalist extremists in their country and the Conservative and Unionist party is preparing to pull the ejector handle on their behalf.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    Yes, but I wouldn’t expect it to be announced so graphically in the Telegraph (just yet).

    Posted 2 years ago #
  19. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    They don't have long. 31st December and they have to put a border somewhere.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    Yes yes.

    Perhaps I should just accept that the Telegraph is running the country...

    Posted 2 years ago #
  21. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I think the decision was that the country should no longer be run. By anyone. Like when you get a tank-slapper on a motorbike - you have to let go of the bars and trust that it will sort itself out.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  22. nobrakes
    Member

    IWRATS they are following the lead from a well known NGO. This is pays sans frontières

    Posted 2 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    Brexit border software developers warn of delays

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/technology-54706263

    Posted 2 years ago #
  24. minus six
    Member

    Petition to end public subsidy for Westminster MPs meals

    https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/stop-mps-entitlement-to-free-work-meals

    Posted 2 years ago #
  25. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @nobrakes

    It would be funny in a kind of Swiftian way if they just refused to erect borders with their neighbours.

    I always loved the 'intercalendrical zone' in Alasdair Gray's Lanark. The whole UK of GB&NI could withdraw from the idea of dividing up the surface of the Earth and just insist that it only exists notionally in some heraldic/legal sphere. Great possibilities.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  26. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I shall try a prediction. Here is what happens in the 2020s;

    1) Chaotic exit from the Withdrawal Agreement on the 1st of January 2021.
    2) The short positions held by the backers of Vote Leave pay off hugely.
    3) The UK of GB&NI enters a period of crisis and the state sells off its remaining assets.
    4) These are bought by the Vote Leave backers with the money from the shorting.
    5) Healthcare is withdrawn from any family engaging in political activity and we are effectively enslaved.
    6) Northern Ireland will be ceded to Ireland.
    7) In order to increase the value of the assets they now hold the Vote Leave backers will initiate a campaign for the UK of GB to re-join the EU.
    8) This campaign will be allowed and will consume all political energy from all parties, particularly the SNP.
    9) The UK of GB will negotiate an opt-out for London which will become a golden enclave requiring a special passport to enter.
    10) We will end up as Romania circa 2004.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  27. minus six
    Member

    @iwrats

    love the old switcheroo at step seven.. entirely plausible

    Posted 2 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    The word “free” might be missing from 5.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  29. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The switcheroo is almost inevitable. Brexit only pays them once, the EU pays off continuously.

    If I were the EU I would not allow them to rejoin as a single unreformed country.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  30. LaidBack
    Member

    @iwrats - is Scotland guilty by association? Vibe I get is that the islands of Greater Brextannia and Hibernia spell trouble for many in EU.
    Yes I know two or three MEPs might welcome Scotland, but in some ways we (citizens of Scotland) are maybe part of the problem? We've tried to influence things but in the end England has decided as our union isn't really one in any normal sense. We all know people there that don't agree - some are thinking about moving north. An influx of younger people would be good though. Too many people of my age!

    Posted 2 years ago #

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