So Our Fish are going to be stored in a field in Ayrshire? Is that it?
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Do we need an EU referendum thread? (Brexit thread)
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No our fish are going to university, our academics are going to be in a field in Ayrshire (where then can outstanding in their fields :))
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Ah, a school of Fish?
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The fish may not get sorted
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The good news is that we have found a way forward on most issues, but this is now case of us being so close and yet being so far away from each other, because two issues now remain outstanding, you know them: the level playing field and the fisheries.
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Perhaps a way can be found to use water drained from level fields to help the fish.
Then again, perhaps some politicians are more interested in sunny uplands than dealing with details - such as the difference between rainwater and seawater...
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"our academics are going to be in a field in Ayrshire"
I am imagining a kind of Free International University set up: teepees, ad-hoc wireless network, collectively co-authored curriculum, brainstorms of vivid ideas, etc.
It would be great if it didn't rain so much on the West Coast. Wrong bit of the country for that sort of thing.
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Mad really.
So ‘everything’ depends on appeasing the Sovereignty-extreme Brexiteers!
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I know some folk like to bash the BBC, but this thread from Katya Adler makes interesting (and plausible?) reading . similar to the Guardian article, really. https://twitter.com/bbckatyaadler/status/1339174510667427841?s=21
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If that thread is correct then there has been big progress - no more unilateral tariffs and pressure on France from other coastal countries
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From a Scottish perspective we have to hope the EU defend the single market from British attempts to undermine and weaken it. It's by no means perfect but it is the framework within which social democracy is currently safest.
Means a bit of pain now but a win in the long run.
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Why are fish apparently such a big issue?
https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2018/10/11/fishing-quota-uk-defra-michael-gove/
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Also let us not forget that Mr Gove was adopted by a Torry fish processor. It is likely that fish have some sort of emotional resonance for him as well as scope for corruption.
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The WTO had previously also ruled that EU governments – including the UK, France and Germany – had given illegal state aid to Airbus. As a result, UK goods such as Scotch whisky and woollen jumpers were hit with 25% tariffs levied by the US.
However, the US trade representative suggested the UK’s decision to abandon tariffs on Boeing did not go far enough, and was not considered to be a concession, because after leaving the EU, Britain would not have the right to impose retaliatory tariffs on the US.
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Latest Deadline News
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European parliament sets Sunday deadline for post-Brexit trade deal
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In a statement after a short stock-take telephone call on Thursday evening with the European commission president, the prime minister repeated his suggestion that it was “very likely” that an agreement would not be reached, with fisheries the standout issue.
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Stripped of our European citizenship. Devolution castrated. The prime minister's brother and Russian handler appointed to parliament for life. An internal customs border installed across the UK.
Imagine putting a manifesto or even a leaflet together proposing these things. You can see immediately why they didn't.
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Hard for a government that's set a tone of bluff and bluster on Brexit to pivot into fact based advice on the pandemic.
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France is closing its border with the UK of GB&NI. 48 hours initially, but quite possible that they will make that a long-term arrangement if the new viral strain is what it seems to be.
The end of the Withdrawal Agreement may be even more brutal than anyone anticipated.
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France said it was suspending passenger and human-handled freight transport for 48 hours
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Presume that means lorries/containers will be allowed but what is “human-handled” these days?
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That last one was supposed to be in CV thread, but everything is mixed up these days
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Negotiators of a Brexit trade deal inched towards a compromise on fishing rights on Sunday but missed a major deadline, raising the prospect of weeks without arrangements from 1 January even in the event of agreement.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/20/uk-faces-brexit-limbo-after-talks-deadline-missed
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Breton said the tragedy was that the EU could have provided the British government with valuable financial aid through its €750bn recovery plan it the UK had chosen to stay in the bloc.
“It’s a tragedy what’s happening in Britain, and this Brexit is a tragedy, we see it more and more every day,” he said. “It is a decision which we respect because the British people are sovereign. But consider that if Great Britain had remained as we wished, it would have today, like all other European countries, between €30bn and €50bn in aid thanks to the Next Generation EU fund set up by the commission.”
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Johnson makes EU fishing proposal that could enable Brexit deal before Christmas
UK negotiators reduce demand for EU catch reduction from 60% to 35% and accept five-year phase-in
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"Keir Starmer will not be backing calls to extend the Brexit transition period."
But you knew that as anything suggested from here is immediately ignored. Our suppliers in Europe can't believe how self destructivley UK is behaving.
Labour and Tories are as one on this depressingly.Posted 3 years ago # -
Perhaps we should look on all this Brexit kerfuffle as a useful dress rehearsal and learning resource for when Scexit comes along.
If leaving a 40 year union whose currency we don’t share and with only 20% of Scottish trade is this bad, what will leaving a 300 year old union whose currency and many assets we do share and with 60-70% of our trade, be like ?
Curious how Brexit has fuelled the appetite for separation , but that same Brexit will make its implementation so much more difficult
However , I am sure our local chefs will come up with some great “ oven ready “ dishes to ensure “titanic success” when the time comesPosted 3 years ago # -
@jss
You are missing a trick. The dress rehearsal for Scexit happened in 1921 when a fully integrated part of the UK of GB&I was last ripped out of that union to create a poverty-stricken rebel province (the Irish Free State) by a few violent extremists. Cut off from the pooling and sharing of the UK of GB&I that 'country' languished until it was taken in as an act of political charity by the EEC in 1973.
That is the future of Scotland, ripped from its natural union: a war-torn starveling outcast.
Imagine the irony if Scotland were to leave and Ireland were then to return to the happy embrace of Britannia!
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“That is the future of Scotland, ripped from its natural union: a war-torn starveling outcast.“
Not sure how much you actually believe that, but it doesn’t sound like a strong argument for Indy!
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