Maybe it'll all have been for the best?
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Do we need an EU referendum thread? (Brexit thread)
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Best?
Could be some upsides(?)
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Brexit is an exercise in emotion, not rationality; in choosing your own facts. And it’s not clear how it will end.”
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But Johnson’s lies were the biggest of all, he said: “‘Take back control,’ Johnson lied to his citizens. But all the British government will finally have achieved is to have taken back control of a little shovel and a little sand castle.”
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Spain and UK reach draft deal on post-Brexit status of Gibraltar
British overseas territory had been left out of deal announced on Christmas Eve
As part of the deal, the British Overseas Territory located on the southern tip of the Iberian peninsula would be able to join European Union programmes and policies such as Schengen, González Laya told reporters.
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From chdot's post:
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“Populists depend on enemies, real or imagined, to legitimise their actions and deflect from their own shortcomings,” she said. If the EU has been the “enemy abroad” since 2016, it will steadily be replaced by “enemies within”: MPs, civil servants, judges, lawyers, experts, the BBC.
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Thirty years ago it was the Irish that were viewed as the "enemy within" by many in England, with some justification - there was a war going on. That conflict has been deftly removed from the populist equation by European solidarity.
The currently triumphant Brexiteers will seek out new foes as "Global Britain" fails to materialise. Perhaps, as I suggested some time ago, the Scots will become the new "enemy within".
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At the outset I thought we might briefly get cheaper lobster as the only possible benefit.
Now that Gib is in Schengen and Norn Irn de facto in the SM and CU the UK of GB&NI's demise is inevitable so there's that too.
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Tampon tax: government axes VAT on sanitary products
Key campaigner Laura Coryton accuses Tory politicians of trying to turn issue into ‘pro-Brexit thing’
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/31/tampon-tax-government-axes-vat-on-sanitary-products
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Business will go great guns without this burdensome paperwork.
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Ah
I see you’re being ironic
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3.2 Importing: Additional Requirements
3.2.1 Overview
This section describes the additional processes users will face when importing the following goods:
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I presume you’ve read the whole doc?
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The Kent access permit, KAP, or “Kermit” as it has been dubbed, is mandatory for all drivers wanting to cross the Channel after 11pm on 31 December.
Officials said that so far only about 450 of these 24-hour permits had been issued. The slow take-up was feeding fears that there could be a partial repeat of the pre-Christmas chaos with lorries halted or told to turn back if they do not have the Brexit passport in the coming weeks.
Drivers without a permit could be pulled over by the Driver and Vehicles Standards Agency using automatic number plate recognition and potentially fined £300, the officials said.
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Brexit: New Irish Sea trade border begins operating
A new trade border between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK began operating at 23:00 GMT on Thursday. The 'Irish Sea border' is a consequence of Brexit. It means that most commercial goods entering Northern Ireland from Great Britain now require a customs declaration.
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Brexit: Gibraltar gets UK-Spain deal to keep open border
Spain has reached a deal with the UK to maintain free movement to and from Gibraltar once the UK formally leaves the EU on Friday. To avoid a hard border, Gibraltar will join the EU's Schengen zone and follow other EU rules, while remaining a British Overseas Territory. The deal was announced by Spanish Foreign Minister Arancha González Laya, just hours before the UK exits the EU. The Rock voted Remain in 2016 and about 15,000 Spanish workers go there daily.
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'Betrayed': residents furious over Brexit lorry park to be built next to Kent villages
Letter sent on New Year’s Eve warns that area has been purchased for use as 'Betrayed': residents furious over Brexit lorry park to be built next to Kent villages Letter sent on New Year’s Eve warns that area has been purchased for use as customs site customs site
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/01/residents-furious-brexit-lorry-park-kent-village
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Mad that the Conservative and Unionist party have installed a customs border across their own union and nobody's even saying anything. Like it was totally normal.
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“Mad that the Conservative and Unionist party have installed a customs border”
Well yes but
As Boris PROMISED it wouldn’t happen, most of his fans will believe it’s fake news.
How’s the betting going on ‘united Ireland before separated Scotland’?
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Could Britain rejoin the EU? It seems like a hopelessly lost cause – but so did leaving
Jonathan Freedland
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/01/britain-rejoin-eu-leaving-brexit
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Northern Ireland is very different to here and I would never predict anything but it's hard to see how this half-way house suits anyone in the long term. Short term there will be fish landing and smuggling opporchancities but I can't see semi-detachment being stable.
Thing is lots of the Brexiteers (Michael Gove excepted) doubtless couldn't care less what happens in any bit of Ireland, whereas they really don't want to lose control of Scotland.
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Worth posting this again: "mendacious, intellectually limited hustlers".
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From link -
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It is actually more accurate, for those invoking British history, to say that partition — the British Empire’s ruinous exit strategy — has come home. In a grotesque irony, borders imposed in 1921 on Ireland, England’s first colony, have proved to be the biggest stumbling block for the English Brexiteers chasing imperial virility. Moreover, Britain itself faces the prospect of partition if Brexit, a primarily English demand, is achieved and Scottish nationalists renew their call for independence.
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Officials are investigating a possible sinkhole after a 4-metre cavity appeared on a runway at an airport in Kent being used as a makeshift lorry park.
Reports emerged on New Year’s Eve suggesting that the hole may have been caused by water erosion, but a director of the company that owns Manston airport, in Thanet, said he believed the hole is man-made.
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Spain will have the last word on who can enter Gibraltar under the terms of the preliminary post-Brexit deal announced this week, Spain’s foreign minister has said, in an assertion that was swiftly challenged by Gibraltar’s chief minister.
The agreement in principle – struck just hours before Gibraltar was poised to become the only frontier marked by a hard Brexit – will allow the British overseas territory to join the Schengen free movement area with Spain acting as a guarantor.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/02/spain-gibraltar-border-preliminary-post-brexit-deal
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From Cyclingmollie's link:
---Dutch Bike Bits complained that the U.K. government now requires “every company in the world in every country in the world outside the UK which exports to the UK to apply and collect British taxes on behalf of the British government.”
“If,” imagined the company, “every country decided to behave in the same way then we would have to pay 195 fees every year, keep up with the changes in taxation law for 195 different countries, keep accounts on behalf of 195 different countries and submit payments to 195 tax offices in 195 different countries, and jump through whatever hoops were required to prove that we were doing all of this honestly and without any error.”
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I did not know that Selle Royal now own Brooks.
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Ministers are facing demands for more honesty and transparency over any logjams at the UK border in the wake of Britain’s exit from the EU, amid concerns that waves of disruption will last for six months.
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(As mentioned on here previously.)
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The audience for these rituals is never meant to notice (and generally doesn’t because it is a complex subject) that despite all of the above, our Scottish fishing barons become even richer and more powerful.
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Indeed we do. What a great challenge for a minister who could see opportunity rather than grievance, challenge the power of vested Scottish interests and lead a revival of coastal communities, based on the new freedom to apportion resources.
Is there any chance of it happening? Almost certainly not.
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BW is no fan of the SNP, and his conclusion might be correct.
But why?
Why would any Scottish Gov side with ‘big fish’ in the same way they are reluctant to deal with ‘big land’??
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The UK of GB[&NI] going great guns.
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An6 product with animal parts? But hummus? Weird.
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@gembo
'Chickpeas' are the testicles removed from capons. True fact.
"A small number of our products are temporarily unavailable for our customers in Northern Ireland while border arrangements are confirmed."
Who thought they would live to read this exciting sentence?
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