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Do we need an EU referendum thread? (Brexit thread)

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  • Started 9 years ago by I were right about that saddle
  • Latest reply from LaidBack

  1. gembo
    Member

    @weefolding bike had a link about eleven years ago to Fanta containing fish (as a lubricant to get the corrosive liquid out the can.?) even though fish is not mentioned in ingredients list. Now I taste fish every time I drink Fanta (approx once a year)

    Fresh pasta has eggs

    But hummus? What is in supermarket hummus, the secret ingredient that only the EU knows about that makes it not vegan?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. wee folding bike
    Member

    Sorry.

    Wine sometimes uses fish skin to take out cloudyness.

    Anywho, better get ready for a big Teams meeting tomorrow morning.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. gembo
    Member

    @weefoldingbike, is ok I can’t taste isinglass finings in beer (except Arran Gold)and they have taken it out of Guinness. Swimbladder of the cod? Originally but now using tropical fish.

    Never tasted it in wine at all

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. jss
    Member

    Just read that only 516 people in France have so far been vaccinated compared to 1.3 million in UK . Germany about 240,000 . All first dose only. I thought the EU were meant to be better than us in protecting their citizens. I would still like to think so but....
    The Brexit Jab?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The French roll-out has been hampered due to the first dose being administered via a cigarette and the second by suppository.

    Had we stayed in the EU our first dose was to be injected by dog bite and the second as part of a tattoo of Jacques Delors.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. jss
    Member

    I understand that the vaccine in Holland will be distributed by refrigerated bicycles and administered by specially adapted bike pumps

    Posted 3 years ago #
  7. steveo
    Member

    Point of clarity- Is the bicycle carrying a cold storage unit or is the bicycle kept at -70 whilst being ridden?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. jss
    Member

    I think Wim Hof is directing this-so it is both bike and rider just wearing shorts that are refrigerated

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    One large manufacturer had 15 lorries of food bound for Northern Ireland stuck because they lacked customs declarations, said Leheny. He cited another company that sent 285 lorries to Great Britain but only 100 returned, leading to knock-on disruption of supply chains. Another company resolved documentation problems after studying a YouTube tutorial.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jan/06/northern-ireland-facing-food-supply-disruption-over-brexit-mps-told

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The DUP are now calling for the Northern Ireland protocol's Article 16 to be invoked, leading to its suspension. Brexiteers have always had to pick at most two out of these three things:

    1) England outside the SM and CU
    2) Good Friday/Belfast Agreement preserved
    3) UK of GB&NI preserved as a single territory

    These boys want 1) and 3) and war.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  11. ARobComp
    Member

    Point of clarity- Is the bicycle carrying a cold storage unit or is the bicycle kept at -70 whilst being ridden?

    @Steveo if you've ever ridden in holland in winter you'll know that wind chill means that all bike riders are kept at approximately -70 anyway. Especially in Amsterdam (ITS SUPER COLD)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. LaidBack
    Member

    Australia are just bluffing I reckon - sure it's all posture and there'll be agreement soon (!)

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/first-blow-for-post-brexit-britain-as-australia-rejects-trade-deal/07/01/

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. Morningsider
    Member

    Well, this raised a smile:

    Pro-Brexit campaign Leave.EU relocates to Waterford (Irish Times)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

  15. chdot
    Admin

    Sean Power, the Irish businessman whose name appears on Leave.EU’s domain registration, insists he has never heard of the company.

    “My lawyers are looking into this on my behalf presently and will be in touch as deemed necessary in due course,” said Power, the chief executive of Business Services Group, a Waterford-based company. “I have nothing to do with Leave.EU and never heard of it before yesterday.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/08/irish-mp-calls-regulator-to-investigate-leaveeus-irish-registration

    Posted 3 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    Some fear that the trade, worth more than £1bn to Scottish businesses, is on the brink of collapse because the new rules require every box of fresh seafood and salmon to be offloaded from lorries and inspected by vets before they leave Scotland. That had been taking five hours per lorry this week, trade bodies said.

    Santiago Buesa, of SB Fish in Troon, Ayrshire, said: “Our customers are pulling out. [We] are fresh product and the customers expect to have it fresh, so they’re not buying. It’s a catastrophe.”

    The extra paperwork, export certificates and Covid tests for drivers has added hundreds of pounds in costs to every shipment, firms said. Before Brexit, Scottish exporters were able to get their fresh salmon fillets, live langoustine, crabs, mussels and scallops to the main fish market in Boulogne in 24 hours.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/08/brexit-costs-delays-scottish-seafood-firms-crisis

    Posted 3 years ago #
  17. SRD
    Moderator

    This makes me so angry. Especially in light of the hoo-ha made about ‘fishing’ which totally ignored exporters.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

  19. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The fishers should have spent the last four years developing the market for their stuff here on Plague Island. I guess they didn't because they took the regime's words at face value.

    Fool me once shame on you.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

  21. chdot
    Admin

  22. chdot
    Admin

  23. LaidBack
    Member

    He also said the status quo with regard to Scotland wasn’t working, which is why he said Labour favoured a constitutional commission.

    He has got that partly right - hence recent polls.
    Unknown factors are how the detachment of Scotland from Europe plays out. On environment the desire of Anglo-Britannia to allow GM foods and bee killing pesticides will be hard to defend. In Scottish elections that will be seized by Green party and expect all others (bar Tories) to follow. Outlawed under EU aligned ScotGov laws but would be challenged by UKGov in court?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    The SCFF’s report comes as Scots fishermen face mounting problems due to Brexit.

    Scottish trawlermen have been told to catch fewer fish after new Brexit red tape caused long delays exporting their catch to the European Union.

    https://theferret.scot/marine-scotland-accused-of-environment-disaster/

    Posted 3 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

    Officials wearing high-visibility jackets are shown explaining to startled car and lorry drivers at the Hook of Holland ferry terminal that since Brexit, “you are no longer allowed to bring certain foods to Europe, like meat, fruit, vegetables, fish, that kind of stuff.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/11/dutch-officials-seize-ham-sandwiches-from-british-drivers

    Posted 3 years ago #
  26. Moose
    Member

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55617849

    The last few weeks have seen a frenetic period of adjustment, and change, with people leaving Spain for good, and others replacing them before the rules for residency changed.

    "Our removal companies have never been busier. Every removal company across this coast has told our team they've never seen a situation like this," says Michel Euesden from Rochdale. She runs the Euro Weekly newspaper in Fuengirola, a paper that provides news for Brits living here.

    "It's the first time in 25 years since we started the paper here that we've seen removal companies fully booked going out and coming back in.

    "They are taking the elderly and people who haven't had jobs for a while, because of the Covid situation, back to the UK, and then they're bringing back younger generations with disposable income, and often with an online marketing presence, out here. So the dynamics have completely changed."

    Posted 3 years ago #
  27. LaidBack
    Member

    Brexit - Rose Bikes statement

    With immediate effect Rose will not ship to our shared island. Maybe paying UKGove £1000 to collect VAT for them is a factor.

    I used to use a bit as German products are priced keenly in a German market. Of course SJS will be happy!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  28. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    My favourite handlebar grips are Rose and the Rose Beefcake is my favourite ever bike name.

    Beginning to think Brexit was a bad idea and the government does not love us after all.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  29. LaidBack
    Member

    While demand is still there, customers in France, Spain and other key continental markets have told Scots firms they can’t wait for the goods.

    Approximately one third of the country’s fleet is tied up at harbour, according to Scotland Food and Drink chief executive officer James Withers, who said some boats “are now landing in Denmark, not Scotland” in a bid to avoid the bureaucratic net.

    Prices were down up to 80% at Peterhead market on Monday, with some fish that normally go for up to £60 a box fetching just £8 in what has been dubbed “withdrawal prices”.

    One French fish processor, JP Maree, said it had to seek monkfish from Norway and Denmark instead of the UK, while seafood wholesaler Demarne Freres said it has “never seen such delays” and called the situation “apocalyptic”.

    From National - fish is obviously a very small part of the economy (even though it was used as cover for Bxt). Most UK & EE fish is caught in Scottish waters. Scottish boats would often land in EU ports before to get the best price. Not possible now.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    During an urgent question on fishing, Eustice heard sustained criticism and concern over the situation from a number of Tories, including Douglas Ross, the leader of the Scottish Conservatives. Ross said he had been contacted by fishing workers in his Moray constituency and around Scotland, “raising their serious concerns and frustrations about the current situation”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/14/mps-fishing-areas-criticise-government-brexit-red-tape

    Posted 3 years ago #

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