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Do we need an EU referendum thread? (Brexit thread)
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“They have transposed deep water sea container regulations on a just in time supply chain,” he says. “This is how Poland relates to Russia. This is not how Scotland should relate to Northern Ireland.”
But Summerton has taken some flak locally after he got involved with a briefing for the European Research Group and the shadow cabinet two weeks ago. He defends his right to seek further easements in the application of the protocol. “We are in logistics, not politics,” he says.
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Sounds as if he might have got the Brexit he voted for?
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@crowriver-I suppose one difference is that uk took a gamble - placed contract 3 months before EU and before it had been completely tested and also spent millions helping finance the development of the vaccine
EU bureaucracy has only recently approved it
Anyway Monsieur Macron does not seem to want it anymore- he thinks it’s not effective for over 60’s - Gallic sour grapes.? Good French garlic probably just as good ,n’est ce pas
Around 60% of French don’t want to be vaccinated anyway according to Guardian a few days ago-especially not with one originating in dastardly Angleterre!Posted 3 years ago # -
"uk took a gamble"
Seems to sum up much UK government policy these days...
Johnson as some kind of shambling casino huckster, punting millions in chips on the roulette wheel...
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"uk took a gamble"
Well yes, the UK (ministerial decision by Hancock) thought very early on that vaccine was the way out. One of the few things they seem to have got right.
Mind, no one likes that they did. Rather see them fail again so that they can judge.
Also, remember the stick they got for not joining the EU scheme. That's wearing we'll now.
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“placed contract 3 months before EU and before it had been completely tested and also spent millions helping finance the development of the vaccine”
Being ultra-cynical, you have to wonder whether they were ‘taking advice from experts’ or facilitating commercial futures - public money for (potential) private benefit.
Undoubtedly a gamble but unkind to merely think they ‘got lucky’.
I’m sure there were people beyond politics/politicians who had a reasonable idea of what might/could be done.
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UK vaccine procurement was managed by the civil service/NHS, with input from industry. The NHS has decades of experience in vaccine procurement and delivery. I doubt the success is down to luck. Given years of austerity and the trauma of Brexit, this is nothing short of remarkable.
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“this is nothing short of remarkable“
VERY true.
I suppose on this one I’m just underestimating how much (remaining) civil servants quietly demonstrate their competence.
Meanwhile politicians pretend they are making correct decisions...
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Made up number -
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Today’s children face losing £350bn in lifetime earnings unless the UK’s governments invest in radical catch-up efforts when the pandemic is over, according to a report by the Institute for Fiscal Studies.
Not disputing that disruption to education is having, and will continue to have, many downsides - including, for some, ‘missing’ education that could have employment (and income) consequences.
But now that a ‘job for life’ is mostly gone, the idea that formal education to 18 or 21 is all that counts (and the employment income is worth counting up) seems odd.
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"Today’s children face losing £350bn in lifetime earnings"
:-O Even the boomers never earned that much. I'd be happy with just £3.5m.
On a serious note though, I read it elsewhere as £40,000 per person which over a 45-50 year working life is less than £1,000 per year. The already existing inequalities suffered by those in deprived areas has a much larger effect than this.
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I know I mentioned this before upthread but why are there so many fish being left to rot in warehouses etc when they could be soled (ha ha) to locals?
I bought four haddock fillets from the local fish van man today - £15. Felt as though he'd slapped me with one of them. Why does the usual issue of supply and demand not drive down prices here? Genuine question which is perfectly suited for discussion on a cycling blog site.
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Brexit: Mid and East Antrim withdraws staff after 'menacing behaviour'
Mid and East Antrim Council says it has withdrawn staff from Brexit inspection duties at Larne Port due to concerns for their safety.
In a statement, the council said there had been an "upsurge in sinister behaviour" in recent weeks, including graffiti describing port staff as "targets", and what appeared to be attempts to gather workers' personal information, including license plates.
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Livestock or dead meat inspectors?
Fifteen pound fish @cocoshep niche? Bit like the reduction in cost of titanium not making it to the cost of bikes. Whoever owns Van Moof however has brought the price down. By removing the track and trace making it optional. Tempted but Richard Electric Bike Co wary of their battery.
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“Genuine question which is perfectly suited for discussion on a cycling blog site”
Clearly you don’t understand the nature of CCE...
It’s a forum for curious people who (mostly) live around Edinburgh and happen to have a functional interest in bicycles!
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“Why does the usual issue of supply and demand not drive down prices here?“
It’s complicated.
(Not pretending I know all the answers.)
Pricing via “supply and demand” suggests that ‘markets’ are ‘efficient’ and ‘rational’ (and free).
At present (or recently at least) there is/was the hope this was all temporary and reducing prices through the chain to the fishmonger wouldn’t ’help’.
(For instance) halving prices in shops wouldn’t simply double the amount of fish sold.
Whether fish is/was rotting in significant quantities rather than being sold for pet food or fertiliser is unknown (to me).
No doubt some will become landfill.
For the future, who knows? Boats are tied up because the export market is ‘constrained’. Will the new supply/demand regime mean lower domestic prices - or higher ones??
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Brexit checks on animal and food products arriving into Belfast and Larne ports have been suspended amid fears over the safety of staff, Northern Ireland’s agriculture ministry has said....
“The situation will be kept under review and in the meantime full documentary checks will continue to be carried out as usual.”
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What is achieved by ending physical checks (for those doing the intimidating)?
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We must not forget that British people in Northern Ireland have had their country cut in two against their will. They're painted into a very small corner with the very clear implication that the London mother ship is about to jettison them.
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A beekeeper trying to bring 15 million bees into the UK says he has been told they may be seized and burned because of post-Brexit laws.
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He added: “So far the department has overseen a policy whereby the UK is only one of three countries in Europe to see a decline in bee colonies.Fewer honeybees means less pollination, less top fruits and more imports.”
Defra said bee health was a devolved matter and it was working to find a solution. A department spokesperson said it would provide guidance to bee importers and beekeepers as soon as possible.
It is the responsibility of the importer to ensure goods dispatched from Northern Ireland meet the definition of NI qualifying goods or meet import requirements, they added.
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From the French town of Effen
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Can't a man just eat cheap fish
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Buy from the quayside?
Essential visit to East Lothian??
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Any fishing boats at Newhaven these days?
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Cheap is relative.
Oysters used to be food of the poor.
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From time immemorial, the fishermen of Newhaven had taken oysters from the abundant beds of the Forth. For centuries they were a staple food of the poor. They were dredged from the beds (or scalps) by dragging a large rake at a 35° angle from their open boats which were rowed up and down.
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Back in the day one of my ancestors had a clause in their contract as a farm hand specifying salmon for dinner no more than four times a week.
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Ah like the tory trencherman who insists on having wine at no more than two meals per day
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@chdot
I am avec des bébés but worse I am carless. If only we could actually cycle safely and comfortably to cheap fish quayside heaven with the kids...
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Big Effen Bees
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What kind of monster breakfasts sober?
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