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Do we need an EU referendum thread?

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  • Started 2 years ago by I were right about that saddle
  • Latest reply from LivD

  1. LaidBack
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    @Iwrats My worry is that the people making the plan are reckless, unintelligent, uninformed and quite possibly a bit mad. Their actions will have consequences that they (and we) are quite unable to envision.
    Totally agree. Their pleas to have a government of national unity ring hollow when they have disrupted the lives of so many. They seem to relish conflict and will ramp up things to obscure their lack of a plan. Ethnic hatred is useful for some and beats thinking. As a believer in running my own business and country I am shocked how much the vote has changed the mood down south. I look to our country with a bright future welcoming people in. May's attack on the EU before negotiations begin set a low and mean spirited tone. Of course for those with money the resulting chaos of her actions is not a threat. They're abroad for large parts of the year and uncertainty can create opportunity (for them).

    Posted 1 month ago #
  2. LaidBack
    Member

    Many European cities celebrated Europe Day today.

    #europeday2017 #EuropeDay is popular in Edinburgh by LaidBackBikes, on Flickr

    Sure the media here will have lots of positive stories of the bonds between our various countries. (not)
    Also hear that Scot Gov were meeting Angus soft fruit growers worried about how they can still have access to labour and markets. Someone else in fishing industry has also made the observation that the change to fishing is 'not all the EU's fault'. Meanwhile Scot Gov were in Ireland too.
    T May and her supporters will be very pleased I'm sure ;-)

    Posted 1 month ago #
  3. I were right about that saddle
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  4. LaidBack
    Member

    When all else fails try poetry.
    Some lines made me laugh.
    http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2017/05/15/35-years/

    Meant to put in Indyref thread. Shows the state of things!

    Posted 1 month ago #
  5. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland leaves the European Union and all its associated bodies at midnight on the 29th of March 2019.

    Presumably there's a sense of urgency in London?

    Posted 1 week ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

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    Nicola Sturgeon will call for a cross-party “four nation” approach to the Brexit negotiations as she joins SNP MPs at Westminster later today.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-to-seek-four-nation-approach-to-brexit-1-4473050

    Do we need a Brexit thread??

    Posted 1 week ago #
  7. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    A 'four nation' approach is of course what is required if it's physically possible, but the UK of GB & NI's exit from the EU is primarily driven by the internal politics of the Conservative party, not national unity.

    What position could satisfy all of; the border counties of Northern Ireland, Edinburgh, Grimsby, Guildford, Snowdonia and Shoreditch and also be something none of the EU27 would veto?

    Clever, principled people with the backing of the whole of the four nations would struggle to achieve this. A group of dim, slippery zealots with their turncoats on shoogly pegs may well not even try.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

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    1 bike, 4 countries, and the 100 great geosites of the U.K. Follow a hydrogeologist's adventure on 2 wheels, visiting the 100 great geosites (and more)!

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    https://mobile.twitter.com/GreatGeology

    Posted 1 week ago #
  9. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    In his interviews this morning Michael Gove, the new environment secretary and one of the leaders of the Vote Leave campaign, stressed the importance of achieving a consensus on Brexit

    Ahhh! Woooh! What's happening? Who am I? Why am I here? What's my purpose in life? What do I mean by who am I? Okay okay, calm down calm down get a grip now. Ooh, this is an interesting sensation. What is it? Its a sort of tingling in my... well I suppose I better start finding names for things. Lets call it a... tail! Yeah! Tail! And hey, what's this roaring sound, whooshing past what I'm suddenly gonna call my head? Wind! Is that a good name? It'll do. Yeah, this is really exciting. I'm dizzy with anticipation! Or is it the wind? There's an awful lot of that now isn't it? And what's this thing coming toward me very fast? So big and flat and round, it needs a big wide sounding name like 'Ow', 'Ownge', 'Round', 'Ground'! That's it! Ground! Ha! I wonder if it'll be friends with me? Hello, Ground!

    Posted 1 week ago #
  10. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    In the centre lay the exploded carcass of a lonely sperm whale that hadn’t lived long enough to be disappointed with its lot.

    Typical government minister then.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  11. gembo
    Member

    We do need to consult The Book (HItchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy) in these troubled times)

    Posted 1 week ago #
  12. I were right about that saddle
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  13. sallyhinch
    Member

    This is about Donald Trump but it made me wonder. Never underestimate the power of stupid https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/jun/16/oliver-burkeman-laws-of-stupidity-donald-trump

    Perhaps it's all a cunning plan after all?

    Posted 3 days ago #
  14. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.

    Frank Zappa

    Posted 3 days ago #
  15. Iain McR
    Member

    a tremendous summary from 'the other side', if you speak German or want to Google translate.

    http://mobile2.derbund.ch/articles/59442e3cab5c3744ba000001

    Posted 3 days ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    English version of Iain McR's post now doing the rounds;

    http://www.europeanscom.eu/the-laughing-stock-of-europe/

    Posted 1 day ago #
  17. LivD
    Member

    Queen's hat making a statement too in her speech...
    https://www.buzzfeed.com/fionarutherford/if-the-hat-fits

    Posted 1 day ago #

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