There should be a especially deep, especially demon-ridden pit in Hell reserved for Conservatives wailing that Brexit hurts their niche interests.
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Do we need an EU referendum thread? (Brexit thread)
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Posted 7 years ago #
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Can't help feeling that a lot of farmers will be walking into their barns with a shotgun if this all comes to pass.
It would be comforting to think that it will only impact the people who voted Leave, but that won't be the case unfortunately.
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@PS
Suicide rates are already high amongst farmers, so you may be right. My guess is that public money will continue to be available to landowners. Getting rid of the CAP would have been one of the few good things I could see in Brexit, but I don't think Queenie, the Dukes of [Redacted], Paul Dacre, the Saudi royal family and so on will willingly give up their dosh.
Tennant farmers on the other hand....
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IWRATS' FT article has been republished in the Irish Times (under a pithier headline).
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/brexit-cake-is-now-more-humble-pie-for-britain-1.3150708
Robert
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imports of cheap low-quality hormone-treated beef and chlorine-washed chicken
Time to go vegetarian
see also: http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16126&page=2#post-254927
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Sir Amyas also revealed that David Davis's Brexit department failed to show him a plan for how leaving the EU will work, despite his requests, and could only offer a "vague" explanation as to why it was unable to.
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It's like they've launched us all on a moon mission before they've even designed, let alone built, the re-entry module. They don't even know what planet they want to land us on.
If they wind up begging the EU to let them take back the Article 50 letter the humiliation will be without parallel.
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@IWRATS: humility is good for a nation. Humiliation not so much.
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@Stickman
Yes indeed. My favourite line of the whole farce so far is the Danish finance minister's remark that “There are small nations and there are countries that have not yet realised they are small nations.” A humbling of one kind or another is coming their way.
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Unfortunately, we seem to be "led" by a group of people who look on losing face as being worse than damaging the country, its economy, its people and its environment.
These people surely have a duty of care to protect the UK and its inhabitants?
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"These people surely have a duty of care to protect the UK and its inhabitants?"
Indeed.
But they somehow imagine that they mainly need to look after the "will" of half of the people who voted (so less than half of the inhabitants over 18).
Still two questions unanswered -
1) can they actually deliver whatever that section of the electorate thinks it voted for (not that there is clear agree agreement about what that was)?
2) will the final version of Brexit be in the interests of even half of those who voted?
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1) can they actually deliver whatever that section of the electorate thinks it voted for
The people who voted for it that I know were keen to have fewer people from Africa and the Indian subcontinent here. If this all goes ahead they are going to be horribly disappointed by the trade deals that the former Empire imposes on them, which will doubtless include demands for visa relaxations.
I'm not making this up by the way. They really did vote to leave the EU to cut immigration that was already in the full control of the UK of GB&NI.
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The European Union (Withdrawal) Bill is out - highlight so far is:
"(4)The Charter of Fundamental Rights is not part of domestic law on or after exit day."
Damn those Eurocrats and their insistence on protecting people from persecution by the state!
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I believe this was part of the white paper:
In light of the government intentions explained in the White Paper, the most significant effect of Brexit on equality and human rights are likely to be:
- the loss of the Charter of Fundamental Rights which includes some rights which are not in the Human Rights Act, for example on the rights of the child and a general right to non-discrimination. The Charter also provides a stronger way of enforcing human rights, in some cases, than the Human Rights Act.
- the loss of the guarantee for equality rights provided by EU law. As a result of Brexit a future government could seek to pass laws which repeal or weaken our current rights below the standard of EU law rights.
Robert
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Damn those Eurocrats and their insistence on protecting people from persecution by the state!
Yeah and us Jocks don't even have the Magna Carta to fall back on.
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The people who voted for it that I know were keen to have fewer people from Africa and the Indian subcontinent here. If this all goes ahead they are going to be horribly disappointed by the trade deals that the former Empire imposes on them, which will doubtless include demands for visa relaxations.
Oh I don't know, the way Brexit is shaping up the only way to get to or from Britain will be to swim for it
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The government of the UK of GB & NI is to be made more streamlined and efficient for the benefit of one and all.
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Ian Dunt (@IanDunt)
13/07/2017, 4:52 pm
The repeal bill - detailed analysis. This is the most dangerous piece of legislation of our lifetime"
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A depressingly bleak yet accurate summary of the shambles of the last few months.
Posted 7 years ago # -
I regret my lack of a second language even more this year but have plans to rectify. Find myself seriously thinking about needing an escape route, despite the wrench it would be to leave family & friends. (Meanwhile, all I can say to the repeal bill is: SNARL.)
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"Find myself seriously thinking about needing an escape route"
Friend of mine tells me he has a job interview in Amsterdam next week.
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Find myself seriously thinking about needing an escape route
After the Lowland and Highland Clearances an Intellectual Clearance would be the end of Scotland.
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Good news. Our Emperors have new briefcases.
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"an Intellectual Clearance would be the end of Scotland"
I'm not leaving Scotland.
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Maybe that wasn't about me...
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@chdot
It's for you to say if you're an intellectual, but creating and curating CCE would probably not have endeared you to Pol Pot or his modern-day disciples.
Still amazed that I'd never heard of Patrick Geddes and delighted to have him come to my attention here.
Il faut cultiver son jardin…..et CCE c'est peut-être le vôtre?
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"It's for you to say if you're an intellectual"
Quite so.
Safer to assume I'm not, easier to keep up appearances.
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