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Do we need an EU referendum thread? (Brexit thread)

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  • Started 9 years ago by I were right about that saddle
  • Latest reply from LaidBack

  1. piosad
    Member

    A delusion widely shared by the British political class, to be fair. He also doesn't understand how the present immigration control system works, but again, who cares, it's only non-EU migrants who have been subject to it for years.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

  3. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Britain will be bound by future decisions of the European Court of Justice despite Brexit if it adopts arrangements outlined by ministers in a key negotiating document.

    Has anyone asked the ECJ if they're interested in what the UK of GB&NI wants?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Dominic Raab, a eurosceptic justice minister, criticised "jingoistic" language about "foreign" courts and judges that was used by the Leave campaign during the run up to the EU referendum.

    This doesn't sound hypocritical or chaotic at all, which is nice.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

  6. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    As everyone predicted, Ireland looks like being where the fantasies of a seamless and frictionless exit of the UK of GB&NI from the EU make first contact with reality.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0825/899997-mary-mcaleese-brexit/

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

  8. chdot
    Admin

    "

    The UK confounded expectations in the wake of the European Union (EU) referendum. We have therefore developed new tools to help us better understand how the UK economy is performing in real time.

    "

    https://www.standardlifeinvestments.com/dynamic/article-details-global-outlook.html?path=shared-sli/global-outlook-articles/global_spotlight_m08_17&hootPostID=158ab83af3ec2191ee3859f76868c16f

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    "

    In a dramatic policy shift, the party’s shadow Brexit secretary Sir Keir Starmer has announced that a Labour government would abide by ‘’the same basic terms’’ of Britain’s current EU membership during the transition, which some observers expect to last as long as four or five years.

    "

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/jeremy-corbyn-very-very-difficult-to-have-separate-brexit-1-4543769

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. LaidBack
    Member

    Kezia Dugdale has resigned.
    Corbyn Fudgit on EU maybe didn't help. That and Labour MSP Neil Findlay's book that claimed Jim Murphy didn't have "a principled bone in his body" (Kezia was Murphy's depute)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. gembo
    Member

    Nice line from her about going when people will ask why not when

    Doubt being murphy's depute is anything to do with it. Her career rise if it can be called that has been caused by being in the right place at the wrong time. She was palatable. Too normal for Scottish politics. First national politician we got on a bike at POP.

    I quite liked that you could tell her heart was never 100 per cent in it and she will maybe go on now and live a normal life?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I quite liked that you could tell her heart was never 100 per cent in it and she will maybe go on now and live a normal life?

    She reads this forum. I hope she sees your kind words.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    "She reads this forum"

    For light relief?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    This is the quintessence of middle-class bien pensant Edinburgh. And a good way to learn about the history of mech hangers.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. gembo
    Member

    Not massively related but was playing nthe Schisms of the Left game with colleague today. (on back odf chat about Kez). AKA Judean Popular Front?

    SWP (what has happened to them - bad split over usual sexual stuff?)_
    IMG
    RCP
    RCG
    Workers' Hammer
    Sparticists' League (the three of them all once got a job at Walls Sausages in Broxburn as their form of entryism was to enter a factory and cause insurrection in their heads - also very against socialists with cashmere jumper, sandals and veggie diet - presume Vanessa)
    WRP

    Posted 7 years ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    RISE.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  17. unhurt
    Member

    I think SWP sexual "stuff" was sexual assault & the protection of Important Comrades accused of the same by divisive women who were probably making it all up. (Same old story regardless of political colour...)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  18. LaidBack
    Member

    Just reading Tasmania Ashmed-Skeikh in the National.

    Jeremy Corbyn is claimed to have said "it would be difficult and problematic for Scotland to have a separate legal system from the other parts of the UK."

    How could a possible future UK PM on a visit here have no idea of Scots Law? Or is this a 'not proven' case!

    Imagine it must have been reported elsewhere as legal system here is common knowledge (eg Scotland has lower legal limit for driving with alcohol. All colours of admin have engaged with it too).

    Posted 7 years ago #
  19. unhurt
    Member

    I saw that comment. Palm & face met...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  20. gembo
    Member

    Watford is quite far north for JC

    I was asked today on Princes street if I knew the Lord Jesus. I said yes, he was on the blower to me most weeks.

    Also the jehovah witnesses are selling their magazine in Gaelic now. Brilliant.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  21. LaidBack
    Member

    Derek Bateman's take on JC's trip up north.

    http://derekbateman.scot/2017/08/28/a-trip-up-north/

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. gembo
    Member

    @laidback, starts off quite funny, with same Watford joke I made. Does go on and on a tad don't you think?

    Trouble with blogs is they lack a firm editorial hand.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. Frenchy
    Member

    CCE posts complaining about a lack of editorial control?

    End times are surely nigh.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  24. LaidBack
    Member

    @gembo - was going to edit it down as knew you wouldn't like ;-)

    Bateman is ex-BBC and like McWhirter has gone 'off-script'.

    I did like the idea of JC trying to sell a list of benefits we already have.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

  26. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Google translate if you can't read this.

    Terrifying. The EU now openly defying the Brits to say if they have a plan for this thing or not and setting out the consequences for the 'not' option.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    Not what I call terrifying-

    "

    With such uncertainty, how can we build trust and start discussing a future relationship?

    We need to address these together seriously and rigorously.

    "

    https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Feuropa.eu%2Frapid%2Fpress-release_SPEECH-17-3043_en.htm&edit-text=

    Seems quite reasonable.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Press room here genuinely stunned by that - nobody expected that level of antagonism between the pair. Is a British walkout now inevitable?

    "

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2017/aug/31/theresa-may-leader-election-david-davis-michel-barnier-brexit-talks-press-conference-unlikely-to-let-may-led-them-into-next-election-says-former-party-chair-politics-live

    Posted 7 years ago #
  29. ih
    Member

    The UK's negotiating position seems to amount to, "Europe, be more flexible." M Barnier has 27 governments behind him saying that, "These are the rules."

    Now, you can argue how reasonable these two positions are, but I know which one will prevail, and as Barnier says, the clock is ticking very fast on how soon we realise that.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    "the clock is ticking very fast on how soon we realise that"

    Depends if the UK Gov is as arrogant as, or it wants the fail.

    Posted 7 years ago #

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