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Do we need an EU referendum thread? (Brexit thread)

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  • Started 2 years ago by I were right about that saddle
  • Latest reply from LaidBack

  1. LaidBack
    Member

    Tories don't want anything with the words Customs Union in it.

    Whatever happens one part of the UK will share a border with the EU in he shape of Ireland.
    May's failure to understand this will create chaos and threaten jobs and peace in NI.

    I note the London based MSM have agreed to forget about the Irish question for the moment.

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  2. I were right about that saddle
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  3. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    It's heartening to know that there is a huge amount of work being done to prepare for the regulatory framework after the UK of GB&NI's exit from the EU.

    Disheartening to realise that none of it is being done in the one place that you might think should be working hardest on this subject - London.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  4. paulmilne
    Member

    Land border between NI and Ireland will be the model for when Scotland gets fed up and goes Indy.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  5. chdot
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  6. LaidBack
    Member

    It's all so predictable.
    Brexit is going to hurt us all but they'll be damned if we try and influence things to mitigate the slow motion disaster or if anyone from 'up here' gets proper access to the Brexit papers. (The ones that 'did and didn't exist' which seemed contemptuous in itself)
    They'll be in Edinburgh tomorrow with a UkGov official watching over our elected politicians.

    From BBC web...
    Green MSP Ross Greer, another member of the committee, said the move was "beyond insulting", particularly given MSPs were given "less than 24 hours' notice".

    He added: "Given the massive economic damage this analysis predicts, it's no surprise they're making it as difficult as possible for us to know any more than what has already been leaked."

    And Labour's Brexit spokesman Neil Findlay said the move was "an absolute nonsense" which "takes no consideration of MSPs who have constituencies far from Edinburgh".

    Posted 1 week ago #
  7. bax
    Member

    brexit is clearly a major disaster

    yet i can't help but notice how this will precipitate a true class struggle centre stage

    the fall-out will make the poll tax riots look like a kindergarten tête-à-tête

    bring it on, and f*ck the effete digital middle classes

    Posted 1 week ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    @bax San, are you not worried that you are also part of the effete digital middle classes?

    Posted 1 week ago #
  9. I were right about that saddle
    Member

  10. Morningsider
    Member

    IWRATS - doubtful you will find any blue touch paper in the shops after Brexit.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/08/no-deal-brexit-would-trigger-wave-of-red-tape-for-uk-drivers-and-hauliers

    Posted 1 week ago #
  11. LaidBack
    Member

    ITV news looked at the reality of the softest of soft border between Norway and Sweden.
    It's one tenth of the traffic through Dover and needs 1500 people to man. Has giant x-ray for trucks.
    Nordics are used to moving about their zone so try to do things with least delay.
    Trucks though do stack up.
    Average truck clearance at Dover is 4 min per vehicle. Scandi one takes a lot longer and items not meeting rules are taken off and warehoused.
    They are using number plate recognition and 'trusted' companies like DSV are allowed through relatively quickly. Frictionless is a fiction.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

  13. chdot
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  14. I were right about that saddle
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  15. unhurt
    Member

    Spock would have something unflattering to say about this illogical mess for sure.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  16. nedd1e_h
    Member

    Usually when they announce plans for ridiculously infeasible bridges / tunnels, it's to cover news they don't want you to hear about...

    Don't get played by them

    Posted 1 week ago #
  17. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Oh would some poo'er etc.

    Posted 6 days ago #
  18. LaidBack
    Member

    @iwrats - the Irish Times should now be included in any BBC look at the papers!

    "For all the fantasies of Nigel Farage and John Waters, Ireland will not follow the UK out of the European Union. It won’t do it for reasons that Farage and his new-found Irish acolytes fail to fathom but that Lemass fully understood. Brexit is an authentic English nationalist revolution, even if it depends on a ludicrous notion of the EU as England’s imperial oppressor. Irexit would not be an Irish nationalist revolution. On the contrary, it would be the end of Irish nationalism. The logic of Irexit would be for Ireland to rejoin the UK – and that’s why it hasn’t a hope."

    Posted 6 days ago #

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