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Do we need an EU referendum thread? (Brexit thread)

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  • Started 3 years ago by I were right about that saddle
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  1. I were right about that saddle
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    Yes but Scottish land would go up in flames if it was taxed.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  2. unhurt
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    I heard that. Forced to eschew progressive taxation because of the weirdly flammable nature of the land. Still, natural laws can't be fought.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  3. I were right about that saddle
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  4. spytfyre
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    The Daily Mash NAILS it (Apologies to the Express for STEALING their CAPS)

    Lord Kinder of Ditchling said: “‘Brexit’. One of these new-fangled words, like ‘scampi’ or ‘microchip’. No thank you.”

    Posted 3 months ago #
  5. neddie
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    threat[ening] to block UK tech developed for Galileo from being transferred into the EU

    http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44116085

    Threatening to block technology...

    That's never going to end well

    Posted 3 months ago #
  6. I were right about that saddle
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  7. I were right about that saddle
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    I don't know if this speech was reported in the UK press or not but it should have been.

    Although it was given to a group of lawyers by a former prime minister of France it's quite hard to translate without breaking Rule 2 so blunt is the language.

    Le Royaume-Uni doit regarder la réalité de l'Union européenne en face. Il doit aussi regarder en face la réalité du Brexit.

    Basically; 'You're asking for it and you're going to get it.'

    Posted 2 months ago #
  8. Ed1
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  9. I were right about that saddle
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  10. crowriver
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    So Foxy Loxy's Free Trade Utopia is going well.

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    US tariffs on steel and aluminium imports from allies in Europe and North America are "disappointing" and "absurd", the UK trade secretary says.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44320257

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    See also this from March:

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    In truth, Brexit and Trump’s WTO war are two plots in the same story: the attempt to subvert the multilateral world order. It suggests that once the UK’s right-wing culture warriors are done with leaving the EU, they too may turn their guns on the WTO, because it is a barrier to them doing whatever they like.

    https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/world/trumps-war-on-the-wto-is-just-like-brexiteers-war-on-the-eu

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    And this from today:

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    For some time now, some of us have been trying to make the case that the Global Britain rhetoric beloved of government Brexiters and their supporters is a dangerous fantasy. Cue Donald Trump, who apparently wants to underline that point for us.

    http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2018/06/01/trump-s-shot-across-the-bows-at-brexit-britain

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    Posted 2 months ago #
  11. Ed1
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    In my don’t really have a clue opinion, it may in part be the decline of US rules based approach in part as US loses control and WTO can’t enforce the approach so well on china, in sense WTO was enforcement of US perspective , with the relative decline in US would tend to think WTO times may be numbered WTO not been too effective with china. I suppose trump may speed up the decline of WTO

    Posted 2 months ago #
  12. crowriver
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    @Ed1, yes from the geopolitical perspective we can see it like that, just as we can see Trump as a symptom of US decline, rather than the cause. Which analogy we can extend to Brexit too, alas.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  13. I were right about that saddle
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  14. gembo
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    Maureen Lipman reading from newspapers on radio4 this morning. - -along these lines

    Whilst Donald Trump did not meet with the North Korean leader, there was one Kim he did keep his appointment with. Kim Kardashian. This was the biggest arse ever to appear at The Whitehouse and I am not talking about Ms Kardashian.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  15. I were right about that saddle
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  16. ih
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    "Backstop means backstop" says Michel Barnier today. I can't help but think he's gently goading T May whose Brexit version of this phrase is becoming increasingly shaky.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  17. I were right about that saddle
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    Speaking in Brussels, Barnier said it was not necessarily “feasible” to extend the EU’s offer of continued participation in key elements of the customs union in Northern Ireland to cover the whole of the UK, as the Prime Minister’s proposal suggests.

    If Northern Ireland remains in the single market and customs union Belfast is going to be a boomtown. Many of our employers will move there.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  18. Morningsider
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    I'm pretty sure that, by definition, a backstop can't have an end date - unless that backstop itself has a backstop. Although, the first backstop then wouldn't be a backstop - as a backstop has to be at the back.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  19. chdot
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  20. I were right about that saddle
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    The prime minster has been clear that we will never accept a customs border between Northern Ireland and the rest of the United Kingdom. We are also committed to maintaining the integrity of our own internal market. That position will not change.

    Painted into a corner and lashed to the mast with an albatross and a poisoned chalice.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  21. Morningsider
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    IWRATS - but enough about Liam Fox's Friday evening plans - what about Brexit?

    Posted 2 months ago #
  22. LaidBack
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    Not sure if this link will work.
    Interesting snapshot of how press adapts for Scotland.
    Sun elsewhere has 'Great Britain or Great Betrayal' as headline today ahead WM vote. Scottish Sun runs a murder story instead.
    Mail and Express run anti Scottish Government stories complaining about SNP plans to take diesel cars off road.
    The 'i' has trade war main story - also flash at top saying Landrover moving to mainland Europe (not heard much about that oddly!)
    http://www.thenational.scot/news/16284216.Front_covers_with_The_Jouker__Missing_pages_and_angry_drivers/

    Posted 2 months ago #
  23. chdot
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  24. Roibeard
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    Whilst I can't take credit for noticing this, I'll cheerfully post it:

    https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1006438149025878016

    Robert

    Posted 2 months ago #
  25. LaidBack
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    “Again, why does a corner of the country count for more than other parts of Britain with 4 million people? Simply not true to say its sidelined. Scotland and Northern Ireland have hugely disproportionate influence.”
    © Tim Shipman

    Bella link...
    https://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2018/06/13/the-good-ship-britannia-sinks-below-the-waves-scotland-brexit-and-the-thoughts-of-tim-shipman/

    Posted 2 months ago #
  26. Murun Buchstansangur
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    Perhaps a day a distraction was required?

    Damning report confirms suspicions that SNP delays media FOI requests

    Posted 2 months ago #
  27. I were right about that saddle
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    The UK of GB&NI's aviation industry is now trying to circumvent the paralysed London regime and talk directly to the EU negotiator Michel Barnier.

    They have identified two possible outcomes for March 2019; the complete continuation of EU law and the complete removal of EU law. Both would have very different but possibly very severe consequences I'd have thought.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  28. LaidBack
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    Maybe for Indy 2 thread but related to the statement about Scotland (& England, Wales and NI) being mere parts of the UK and certainly not equal partners.

    “For me, independence is about autonomy, allowing Scotland to meet success and failure on its own merit and not point an embittered finger of blame at anyone else. I have reconciled that independence would herald good and bad. I trust in us to solve the problems that will come our way. If so many other countries can, it is inconceivable that Scotland can’t.”
    © Murray Foote (Creator of 'The Vow' Daily Record front page changes his view).

    Posted 2 months ago #
  29. I were right about that saddle
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    Great to see the Brexit dividend rolling into the Scottish coffers. Not sure what all the fuss was about - we're rolling in it!

    Hopefully the money will go into mental health care to look after everyone who's recently become anxious or depressed.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  30. Ed1
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