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Not sure I believe this either -
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A People’s Vote is currently the most likely option MPs will rally behind should they reject Theresa May’s Brexit Plan in a key Commons vote next month, sources at Westminster have said.
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https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17254935.brexit-peoples-vote-gaining-traction-at-westminster/
Unknown unknowns, unknowable unknowables, unfathomable unfathomables, etc. etc.
chdot, my comments were leading on from Bax's German conspiracy theorist. As for Brexit, I've been sitting her for an hour trying to think of something to say that would convey how I feel about it. The more you think about it, the worse it gets. Where do politicians get that endless ability to be so sure?
Did you vote *for* Brexit?
And if so, would you be prepared to have an interview with a very nice French researcher who's doing a project on motivations of British Brexit voters, particularly (as I understand it) if from a 'progressive/left/liberal' position..? There's a free coffee in it!
If you're interested, maybe best to contact PM me or through twitter (@dvrh99 ?) and I'll put you in touch.
Very tempting to pretend that I did for the surreality of the interview.
Brexpectation (noun) - the (false?) belief that something politically significant will happen soon.
Wasn't on Bella Caledonia's list of new words for 2018.
Many a great brexpectation will soon be shattered i fear. In other news Donald Trump also thinks it is a bad deal.
"Donald Trump also thinks it is a bad deal"
Finally something to do with brexit that I can support. If we must do something so stupid I can't think of a better commendation than that man saying it's a bad deal.
For him to support a deal it would have to be so suicidally pro-business that it doesn't bear thinking about.
In my understanding, the Withdrawal agreement is not nor ever has been a trade agreement, has it? Then the complaints that it doesn't address this or that aspect of trade don't really make much sense.
I think the Gov wanted to do trade talks in advance, but the EU insisted that Withdrawal Agreement had to be settled before trade talks could commence. Once (if) it is agreed (as seems highly unlikely now) then talk on all aspects of trade including fisheries and cross border Irish trade arrangements could begin in earnest.
Also, am I right in thinking that the SNP saying this sells out our fisherpeople is hypocritical as their stance is that the status quo, which the fisherpeople hate, is the desired option?
Just some thoughts I've been having lately ...
The withdrawal agreement mandates the UK of GB&NI's participation in the Customs Union. That means no change to external tariffs and thus no independent trade deals. Northern Ireland's proposed permanent participation in a form of the EEA means this will likely always be the case as long as that province forms a part of the UK.
As I understand it the SNP have always opposed the CFP in principle, but accept it in practice as part of the EU acquis. The UK participated in its drafting largely in John Major's time, so its latest iteration is Tory sanctioned. SNP and Tories not best of mates?
The UK has to do as it's told under the WA and if they're told to give up fishing rights they will. They already have in principle.
Fishing is not the Scottish economy no matter how it is is seen as a touchstone of all things EU.
Bertie Armstrong of SFF is from Belfast and ex RN. Many Scottish boats are based in England. Five families own most of the Scottish deep sea fleet. Make of that what you will.
On West Coast the sea food trade is quite happy to sell into EU and are very concerned about things not being resolved.
Scotland/ UK can land all the fish it likes but without people to process it and a means to get to market things get tough.
Right now Scottish boats can land there catch in Denmark etc.
UK Gov did allow UK delegations on the CFP to be led by SNP - back when Scottish views were taken account of and we were seen as part of a Union.
Scottish vessels landed £560 million of fish last year. It would be instructive to trace the path of that money and see where it has gone to live.
Agriculture, fish and forestry together are 1% of the Scots economy. It's 75% services so I'd expect a conventional analysis to concentrate on that rather than fish.
Informative politics.co.uk article on fishing here.
As seems normal for pretty much all justifications of Brexit, it's a case of be careful what you wish for. UK fishing industry exports most of the fish it catches (having no taste the UK consumer doesn't like herring and mackerel), so really needs access to the European market. A hard Brexit will also cause the UK's fish processing industry serious problems.
And the Brexiteer beef about allocation of the UK's quotas to folk other than the local trawlerfolk? That's down to how the UK government decided to approach it. [The article doesn't go into the history of that, but my understanding is that UK government allocated quotas to British boats. However, the quota was transferrable with the boat and, in the selling the family silver spirit of 1980s UK the British owners then sold the boats (and associated quotas) to Spanish and Dutch fishermen for a tidy profit. I presume that, by and large, those skippers did not reinvest the capital proceeds in their local areas...]
“those skippers did not reinvest the capital proceeds in their local areas”
I believe there are some big houses...
I presume that, by and large, those skippers did not reinvest the capital proceeds in their local areas
When I did a bit of work in the north-east it was lavish weddings and industrial-level heroin consumption.
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Or the fact that the heroin epidemic that has rendered so many in the north-east incapable of following their forbears out to sea sprang up due to an abundance, rather than lack of, wealth.
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for sure, brown remains big in the broch
When I did a bit of work in the north-east it was lavish weddings and industrial-level heroin consumption.
Someone's business boomed as a result at least. Not sure it's particularly sustainable. Although you could say the same about a lot of fishing.
I was just nineteen, the boy aboard, Jack London was my stuff
Rest of the crew were Buckie men, but the skipper was from Macduff
- Bill Drummond, the Porpoise Song
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Brexit news latest: Bank of England warns no deal EU divorce would cause pound to plunge and economy to shrink
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brown remains big in the broch
Quite a set of words to find lurking together.
I never could figure out the triangular relationship between the sheer graft of fishing the drugs and the religious zealotry.
One thing the fisher loons used to do was take the retaining nuts off the steering wheels of their cars and when they passed each other they'd salute by lifting the wheel clear of the steering column. An appetite for risk quite outwith the norm.
I never could figure out the triangular relationship between the sheer graft of fishing the drugs and the religious zealotry
work hard, play hard, pray harder
can i post the remix as well?
don't sleep on either mix, this is timeless
An appetite for risk quite outwith the norm.
I've heard of a "12 minute club", for driving between Banff and the Broch (22 miles -> 110mph average, on a not particularly straight road).
@Frenchy
"White Lining" used to be the thing in Methlick.
Just realised I missed using the 'white weddings and brown heroin' line.
Actually, I assume they were gaan fae Macduff tae i Broch in twelve minties. At "only" requires an average speed o a hunner mile an hoor.
Still, there are awfae feow places on at road that ah'd like tae be daein a hunner mile an hoor, even if I caint there wis naebody else on i road.
@Frenchy
du bist ein doric revelation (hic)
not just iwrats, urchaidh and myself
You're doric, ah'm doric, abdy's doric.
LOL LOL LOL
This is not good. Doubleplusungood in fact.
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