I've been putting off getting dollars for a Xmas jaunt to the States, and today the pound has gone up again with the prospect of no Brexit, so I'm down to the post office to get my currency today.
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Do we need an EU referendum thread? (Brexit thread)
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The charnel pit deepens another metre;
https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2018-0080.html
Scottish EU Withdrawal Act was largely within parliament's competence until the London regime referred it the supreme court and passed its own version, thus rendering parts of the Scottish bill retrospectively ultra vires.
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"so that the whole shithouse goes up in flames and thus hasten the onset of real workers socialism, pronto"
The problem with that is that when they flip the pyramid, and all the 'tyrants' are now at the bottom, and being killed off because they present a danger to the chaos. You have to look at yourself, and figure out where you are on that pyramid.
It's surprising how many middle class intellectuals who strive for Marxism would be close to the top of the list of folks getting burned at the steak if their dream were to succeed....
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It's surprising how many middle class intellectuals who strive for Marxism would be close to the top of the list of folks getting burned at the steak if their dream were to succeed....
That’s more of a culinary accident than a means of execution. Sort of a mi-stake I guess…
I’m here all week, thank you very much.
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lol, yes of course, I'll just leave it there. :D
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The problem with that is that when they flip the pyramid
i'll stop you there as there's no they, and there's no chance of "it" happening.. this was revolution talk down the kneipe by my missus
You have to look at yourself, and figure out where you are on that pyramid
kick out the JAMs, motherf*cker
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@iwrats - a great article.
That guy should have a job (he did of course)."Of course the EU side will now back the Prime Minister in saying it is. They have done a great deal for themselves and they want it to stick. Who can blame them?"
Scottish politicians should read. Clear that fantasists elsewhere haven't.
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@LaidBack
I feel bad for all the 'We Love EU' face-paint people down south. The EU has decided to amputate the whole UK like a gangrenous leg. Off you go this deal is a great deal. Thank you goodbye your instructions will follow.
This augurs not well I fear.
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Superb speech. He should represent the UK at the EU.
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I do wonder if the prime minister of the UK of GB&NI might be losing her mind.
I'm sure I'd have cracked long ago in her position.
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Speech good. I liked lesson three the most but all good. Also reinforces my learning from Heriot watt Carol service that there must always be nine lessons.
Ivor too clever for our politicians? Also still one million people in Scotland would leave EU? In addition to slightly over half the electorate in England. So not just England that is the problem but reinforces my desperate lurch towards Wee Nicky.
I feel May has been on powerful meds for a long time now to keep going. It cannot just be brass neck, lack of human understanding etc. She must also be on very strong pharma
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Also still one million people in Scotland would leave EU?
What matters most to me is freedom of movement. If Scotland were in EFTA I can see advantages there, notably flexibility in relations with the Neighbour Downstairs. Ireland has shown the upside of the Euro-gang, Greece the downside?
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Antiquity article currently free to access if you're interested in an archaeological take on The Brexit hypothesis and prehistory
"the evoking of events from thousands of years ago as relevant to contemporary political discourse is not a problem consigned to the Clarkian past — it remains deeply problematic. Brexit represents a modern example and is quickly becoming our ‘neurosis’. Prehistoric
research projects in the UK are now routinely discussed by journalists using Brexit terminology. [...] Brexit has become a convenient but deeply problematic metaphor that conditions readers to react to these reports in certain ways."Posted 5 years ago # -
I was talking to a guy yesterday who insists there is evidence of a neolithic gathering of 20,000 people from all over Great Britain in Orkney. Not Neil Oliver, somebody else.
I thought getting 20,000 across the Pentland Firth in good order sounded unlikely but what do I know?
It was in the context of Brexit, thus confirming your thesis.
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Cornyn's tabled a motion of no confidence. may walked out.
but now hearing that it's not a 'motion of no confidence' in the government.
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Present population of Orkney is just under 22k. Hard to estimate potential population during the Neolithic but 20k is the highest estimate I've seen - so, perhaps some confusion of figures has taken place? At Ness of Brodgar there are very large deposits of cattle bone that seem to have been placed when one building was "decomissioned" - representing 400-odd cattle (which is a pretty extraordinary number given traditional herd sizes in historical times) - so it seems likely pretty large numbers of people may have been involved. But how many, where from, for how long...
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The Scotsman really has slid into a bad place.
“Given the UK is leaving the EU in March, and given it’s stated SNP policy for an independent Scotland to join the EU, it’s difficult to see how a hard border could be avoided.”
A quote from the Conservative party there. Any analysis of post-Brexit borders that doesn't include analysis of the Irish border is not just worthless it's misleading.
And a party arguing that 'taking control of our borders' is a great thing for the UK of GB&NI to do can only with difficulty argue that it's a catastrophe for Scotland to do the same.
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a must read
http://news.infoshop.org/europe/the-yellow-vests-show-how-much-the-ground-moves-under-our-feet/
"financialized capitalism involves a new alignment of class forces, above all ranging the techno-managerials (more and more them employed in pure make-work 'bullshit jobs', as part of the neoliberal redistribution system) against a working class that is now better seen as the 'caring classes' - as those who nurture, tend, maintain, sustain, more than old-fashioned 'producers'. One paradoxical effect of digitization is that while it has made industrial production infinitely more efficient, it has rendered health, education, and other caring sector work less so, this combined with diversion of resources to the administrative classes under neoliberalism (and attendant cuts to the welfare state) has meant that, practically everywhere, it has been teachers, nurses, nursing-home workers, paramedics, and other members of the caring classes that have been at the forefront of labor militancy. Clashes between ambulance workers and police in Paris last week might be taken as a vivid symbol of the new array of forces. Again, public discourse has not caught up with the new realities, but over time, we will start having to ask ourselves entirely new questions: not what forms of work can be automated, for instance, but which we would actually want to be, and which we would not; how long we are willing to maintain a system where the more one’s work immediately helps or benefits other human beings, the less you are likely to be paid for it."
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"how long we are willing to maintain a system where the more one’s work immediately helps or benefits other human beings, the less you are likely to be paid for it."
You know when you watch X politician on the telly box that you fundamentally disagree with on most things, and then you find yourself astounded when you are nodding your head furiously at something they said?
That. ;)
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the more one’s work immediately helps or benefits other human beings, the less you are likely to be paid for it
That is a key learning from my life. I have shoveled human excrement for peanuts and been showered with gold by reptiles as I devised new swindles for them.
Universal basic income is the answer.
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Her Majesty's Government contemplates a return to the year zero.
If the UK of GB&NI was an African or Latin American country we'd be speculating on the loyalties of the armed forces.
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From link -
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During the meeting, the work and pensions secretary, Amber Rudd, told her colleagues preparing for a no-deal Brexit was a sensible precaution but “just because you put a seatbelt on doesn’t mean you should crash the car”.
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OK...
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down the pub (or equivalent) last week we were discussing the next prime minister. I put forward the current head of the army as my outside the box suggestion.
Sadly with the current collapse of competent leadership a coup no longer seems impossible within my lifetime.
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What are these 3,500 troops going to eat?
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