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Do we need an EU referendum thread? (Brexit thread)

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  • Started 8 years ago by I were right about that saddle
  • Latest reply from chdot

  1. minus six
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    down the pub (or equivalent) last week

    you're drinking homebrew in a mate's garage ?

    me too.. it's vitally important to trick that garage out with a mirrorball and disco lighting, tho

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. acsimpson
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    Don't you have a YouTube video for that?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. minus six
    Member

    sure, but trying to ration my youtube links.. get on a roll too easily

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. minus six
    Member

    ok, just one then... top tune of right now

    [+] Embed the video | Video DownloadGet the Video Player

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. acsimpson
    Member

    Thanks. That seemed quite apt.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. I were right about that saddle
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    we were discussing the next prime minister

    The High Steward of Scotland. The Duke of Rothesay. Charlie Chester. Jug Ears.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. dessert rat
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  8. crowriver
    Member

    "What are these 3,500 troops going to eat?"

    Presumably there are numerous MOD warehouses dotted around the place stuffed to the gunnels with 24 hour ration packs.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Presumably there are numerous MOD warehouses dotted around the place

    I'll bet they've contracted out rations to some clever-dick just in time supply outfit.

    Historically the British military have been taken by surprise by just about every event that has ever happened.

    Previous procurement has purchased;

    * Guns that don't shoot
    * Radios that don't work
    * Aircraft carriers without aircraft
    * Warships that don't work anywhere warm
    * Aircraft that don't work

    I'm not betting on them having enough food.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. Baldcyclist
    Member

    I remember when we went on excersise, they used to give us rations that were years out of date. It was all tinned stuff then that you used to chuck the lot in a pot, tinned curry, with beans and beef stew, that sort of thing.

    They were always a little weird, but somehow still pallitable. That and the over sugary tea, and white mars bars years out of date also. The major down side was that they were basically designed to bing you up for days.

    I'm pretty sure they'll have plenty to go round. Also believe rations 24hrs are more pallitable, and nutritious now.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. crowriver
    Member

    @Baldcyclist, yes I recall similar when I was in the air cadets. The Mars bars were not white, but they had lost their taste and just tasted of teabags...

    Still when you are hungry, cold and wet, sausages and beans or beef curry from a tin tastes like nectar, even if it's past its best...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. I were right about that saddle
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  13. chdot
    Admin

    Précis so I don’t have to read??

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    UK withdraws from the EEA without involving parliament. Crown prerogative.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    Really?

    1.2 Implementing the UK-EEA EFTA separation agreement

    4. This agreement will require domestic legislation to implement it in the UK. In November 2017, the Government announced its intention to introduce the EU (Withdrawal Agreement) Bill (the “Bill”) to give effect to the UK - EU Withdrawal Agreement in UK law. This Bill will also be the primary vehicle for the implementation of this agreement.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    A useful document as we enter the last ninety days of the UK of GB&NI as we have known (and some have loved) it.

    https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2012-featured-story-archive/CleanedUOSSSimpleSabotage_sm.pdf

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. I were right about that saddle
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  18. gembo
    Member

    Saw a well argued spoof Letter on Facebook where the author pointed out that the British Antarctic Survey had a referendum style event to name their new boat with the most popular name being Boaty McBoatface. This was then over ruled despite being the winner and the boat is Calld Sir David Attenborough. So if this can be done by the scientists then surely the politicians can also ignore the result of another popular vote etc.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. paddyirish
    Member

    Brompton preparing for no deal

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. chdot
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  21. chdot
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  22. Baldcyclist
    Member

    May's deal dead. EU tonight saying no more negotiating. We seem to be doing a grand job of sleepwalking into a no deal departure.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    “We seem to be doing a grand job of sleepwalking into a no deal departure.”

    Except that the ‘wisdom’ is that most MPs don’t want that and ‘will do everything’ to stop it.

    We’ll see.

    Maybe...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I do believe that it will be best for everyone on this island if we bring the 1707 union to an end, so I have no particular regard for the structures of government of the UK of GB&NI or the people who inhabit them but this is becoming more than embarrassing or dispiriting or annoying - it's really dangerous.

    And as far as I can make out it's nothing much to do with the EU - the central issue is England's nationhood. The EU is just the mirror England is looking into and not much liking what it sees. A country of 56 million people with a football team but no parliament or leader is surely always going to be a volatile entity.

    If we don't hear people talking about England's need to express its Englishness in short order I can't see this going well for anyone. If notionally Great British and Northern Irish politicians won't speak for England some figure will emerge who will. That person probably won't ride a bicycle.

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  25. chdot
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    We’re in this mess because politicians have cynically connived to get one up on each other without thought of the consequence to the people they work for.

    The upshot? For the first time in our history, Britain has a prime minister risking everything to get parliament to accept a deal that will do economic harm to the country and give us less, not more, sovereignty.

    https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/brexit-deal-vote

    Posted 5 years ago #
  26. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    From the GQ article;

    For the first time since it was established in 1707, the “mother of all parliaments”, the model copied by democracies the world over, is looking truly broken.

    i) Westminster's procedures were established long before 1707, though it's nice of him to pretend otherwise
    ii) The model copied by most democracies is actually the French parliament
    iii) The Westminster parliament is in fact extremely odd in every aspect: its physical layout, its unelected component, its religious aspect, its electoral system, the lack of a constitution, the payroll vote etc etc.

    The weirdest aspect is the pretence that it isn't the historical English parliament with various and changing Celtic bolt-ons.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  27. LaidBack
    Member

    @iwrats

    Agree that England needs some way of expressing its individuality other than English Defence League.
    Obvious solution now is to allow more divergence of the nations of UK so everyone gets what they want.
    Personally I'm fed up apologising to our trading partners - normally calm Dutch are getting mightily irritated. They see BBC London and news from Scotland is only available if they search. Anyway their view is that Scotland's weakness has been part of the problem.... along with a weaker moderate English view.
    State broadcaster cut off Ian Blackford last night apparently. One reason why I won't watch BBC News although listen to radio news (being no other source not branch officed from somewhere else).

    Posted 5 years ago #
  28. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Anyway their view is that Scotland's weakness has been part of the problem

    Sadly they are correct.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  29. steveo
    Member

    Northern England was offered a form of devolution they declined, the problem is the conflation of the UK parliament with the English parliament.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  30. acsimpson
    Member

    From the Beeb:
    "Prime Minister's Questions go ahead as usual at 12:00 GMT on Wednesday. Following a brief debate on banning low level letterboxes, MPs should start debating the motion at about 13:00 GMT."

    Wow, I suppose everyone is entitled to a lunch break but do they really not have anything better to fill their time with.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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