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"Leaving with ‘no deal’ doesn’t remove any previous/current obligations/bills - unless of course the process is akin to bankruptcy."
I don't know if there is truth in this but if our political representatives do attempt to leave without paying the bill I can't imagine it will go well when it comes time to make a trade deal.
Unless we haves something the EU need (unlikely) then unpaid debt isn't going to make it easy to get a favourable trade deal.
ach, the only trade deal we're going to need is for procuring deerskins and meat from the local brigands of granton
Granton: ‘Barbaric’, ‘Evil’, ‘Sickened’ Police called.
Balmoral: 'Tradition', 'Sport', 'Community' Police guards.
You do not expect to see such slaughter of large beasts oot yer office windae
Next week an illegal Russian Roulette Game will be discovered behind Royston Wardieburn Community Centre (reference to the film The Deer Hunter)
This cycle of fury and contempt is kind of exhausting, but I can't look away...
The thing that still amuses me - and I've thought we are sleepwalking into no deal for some time so maybe biased in my opinion - is that parliament have voted to not have a no deal outcome at the same time as voting to send us down a path that will inevitably lead to one...
The thing is that the UK of GB&NI can't sleepwalk into a chaotic exit from the EU because that can be avoided at any point by revoking Article 50 notice as detailed in the CJEU judgement.
So they're taking us there eyes wide open and in the full knowledge that they could take us elsewhere at the stroke of a pen.
So we can take all the newspapers from the last twenty five years, all the editions of Question Time, all the election leaflets, all the worthy Radio 4 scripts and all the books by Oxbridge graduates and set fire to them. We're off to a place that no one has ever seriously argued was anything other than catastrophic and unwanted. All the thinking and talking and writing and arguing has been entirely futile.
Okay, so today I learned that the Good Friday agreement says nothing about custom checks at the Irish border, 'just' that it be demilitarised. So whilie custom checks at the border might be against the spirit of the agreement (spirit always beeing open to interpretation) they could be established without contravening the treaty. For what it's worth.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-46988529
Me posting this does not make me in favour of Brexit, just that I was reasoning with wrong information. Still think it's insane national self-harm.
@paulmilne
It's always worth reading the source text;
The Belfast Agreement doesn't cover Brexit because in 1998 that would have seemed insane. The whole thing is based on ECHR jurisdiction and Council of Europe membership (non-EU bodies) as well as mutual EU membership as part of the framework allowing Irish citizens to live freely in the north. The British-Irish Council is supposed to ensure mutual agreement in changes either side of the border. Etc etc etc.
It looks to me like the whole thing is going to be shattered.
The seven votes took two hours.
Westminster is incredibly inefficient.
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/30/brexit-political-class-politicians
State media spins that Corbyn & May are rehearsing to become an irresistible Eurovision dream team.
Together they will remodel the deal so May can agree with herself and garner support from Labour. This will simultaneously demolish state enemies in the north and on the adjacent island. The south will celebrate this victory with an epic Daily Mail cover to be endlessly shown on Piers Morgan's GMB. A new mood of national unity for the hard times ahead will be talked about on the Tom Bradby at 10 Show and the bad old days of dissidents like Blackford and Lucas will fade away.
The backstop will be semi time-limited and will simply morph into a technological solution being worked on by remnants of Cambridge Analytica and Dyson.
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The government is unprepared for the possible consequences of the UK leaving the EU with no agreement in place at the end of March, the Institute for Government has told BBC News.
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"We will ensure our statute books are ready for exit day and are making good progress on passing primary legislation," a spokesperson from the Department for Exiting the European Union said
This sounds a bit like the Iraqi "Ministry for Information"
"We are making good progress defeating the Western aggressors..."
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EU officials fear Theresa May is setting the UK on course for a no-deal exit at the end of June because she will not have the political courage to ask for the longer Brexit delay they believe she needs.
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The 'will of the British people' is a mystery to me as most of them are in the south of England.
TV Vox pop think they are being bold going to Wolverhampton.
Even May and Corbyn only come here for a day or two and never talk to the real public.
I think that local democracy needs power here in Scotland - and devolved further as our councils are too large (© Lesley Riddoch). Right now I find the politics of London as alien as that of Washington. Sure I can't be alone or have the media snowed the average resident in Scotland to think we are irrelevant?
I think we all expect to be punished for not being right wing and UK enough - even the tories.
@chdot: A potential blocker to a longer delay to article 50 is that the European parliamentary elections are due to be held in May this year. So if the UK hasn't formally left by then it will theoretically have to hold an election for representatives who will sit for less than a year. Actually, even June is problematic under that rationale.
“A potential blocker to a longer delay to article 50 is that the European parliamentary elections are due to be held in May”
Well yes but
That is a fact(or) that gets mentioned from time to time, but ‘everyone’ is too concentrated on deal/no deal/no leave to actually explain the implications/practicalities.
Like most of it, most people just want it to end/go away.
Scotsman leader (yesterday)
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So when May returns to the Commons, a big question will be whether the hard Brexiteers will accept reality and vote for her deal. If so, Brexit is likely to proceed. If not, MPs will face a choice that really shouldn’t be a choice: a second referendum – because having asked the people, it would be wrong to simply overturn their decision without asking permission – or the potential economic catastrophe of a no-deal Brexit.
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Brexit: Leave.EU and Arron Banks' firm fined £120,000 over data breaches
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"Polling by the Centre for Social Investigation revealed that remain voters significantly underestimated the importance that leave voters attached to sovereignty. The UK making its own rules came a close second out of four (immigration was first) in the reasons why people voted leave."
Says a lot: top reason for voting leave was one that the UK Government had much more control over than it could be bothered/dared to exercise.
Interesting article from the former adviser to Donald Dewar.
"This, Prof McLaren, argued might involve an independent Scotland having membership of..... a ‘British Union' [which] might allow for the use of sterling, no trade barriers and some degree of continuing fiscal transfer,” he suggested."
That seems, em, unlikely to say the least.
Some things read like “Project Fear” (even if potentially true) -
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