https://news.sky.com/story/honda-to-stun-ministers-with-closure-of-swindon-factory-11641154
England is going to need a firm hand on the tiller soon. Some kind of Lord or Lady Protector.
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Do we need an EU referendum thread? (Brexit thread)
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We're gonna end up like Cambodia, when Pol Pot was "at the tiller"
No one will need to worry about the Castle St bollards when we're all out subsistence farming
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@neddie
Was thinking just that this morning. We may well get our dream of everyone walking and cycling to school and work but the lessons will be rote-learning the leader's speeches and the work will be weeding parsnips.
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Mr Gove's response follows a warning by more than 30 bodies, which included the Food and Drink Federation, National Farmers' Union and UK Hospitality, that they might refuse to co-operate with the consultation processes because they are consumed with planning for the "catastrophic impact of a no-deal Brexit".
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https://news.sky.com/story/gove-bows-to-food-industry-pressure-on-reform-agenda-11641086
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Was thinking how the current impasse may advance...
UKania has put a marker down to rest of the world that it won't be held to agreements in the future, just because it's agreed to them in the past.
This is the key to our 'shared' future although I hope Scotland can speak for itself soon as our views are being mangled by the cult in power. (Not the SNP/Greens - I mean the TM cult!)
So... any EU negotiator knows that even if TM somehow gets her deal over the line she will break it as soon as she can. I expect a behind the scenes 'deal' with DUP can be struck by hinting that their short term support for TM will have no legally binding backstop and they would at least help defeat the much less sympathetic Labour/SNP/Liberals. "Vote yes now and then we go back on deal as EU and rest of the world will expect from past form."
Companies with plans like Honda will compare and contrast this untrustworthy approach - hence their desire to get off the island.
No-one owes us a living... a fact that came home to industrialised Scotland many decades ago. Everyone remembers all the jobs created in south when conditions 'up here' didn't suit (politically and logistically). The same is happening again in England. It's not personal and I feel sorry for all these skilled workers and the smaller business that lose out in supporting them.Posted 5 years ago # -
The UK of GB&NI doesn't have the staff, laws, infrastructure or software to apply WTO tariffs to imports.
They have 921 hours to acquire them or Mr Gove will look a fool.
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In my opinion, it is too late to stop Brexit. Businesses are already leaving and the damage is done. Faith in politicians is so low that seeing this through is very important to stop the rise of populism. In a way, I think it would be good to leave so that people realise we’re better off being part of the “club” rather than out of it. If we leave with no deal, in 12 months’ time, we may be begging the EU to take us back.
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“They have 921 hours to acquire them or Mr Gove will look a fool”
Will need a lot more hours to stop Gove looking foolish...
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Claire Enders, 61, from London is an enigma right enough.
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Thus what the media has treated as two separate news stories are actually manifestations of one big story, linking the shocks of the Panama Papers, the Paradise Papers, the Brexit vote, and the 2016 US election. It is a consummate irony that ultra-nationalism has been repackaged for voters as an effort to regain local control, protect national boundaries and reassert the dominance of local ethnic groups. What has been sold to working-class and middle-class voters as “a war for the little guy” is in practical terms the wishlist of the ultra-wealthy worldwide.
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For that global elite, it is convenient and profitable to support ultra-nationalist movements. Unlike other insurgents, these elites have no desire to destroy the state: they enjoy public roads, fiat currency and other creations of government just like the rest of us; they simply want to weaken states’ power to constrain them. And that power lies not in the hands of any single government, but in the cross-national alliances that have been the only effective bulwark against the otherwise unchecked power of people with multiple passports and bank accounts scattered all over the world. It is these alliances that ensure fair treatment of workers, environmental protections, equitable taxation and progressive redistribution, even for those who can slip the surly bonds of national law by sheer force of wealth.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/07/why-the-wealthy-back-trump-and-brexit
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Another day to look forward to -
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Theresa May will present the EU with new legal proposals to solve the Irish backstop issue on Wednesday, which Downing Street hopes will be enough to convince Eurosceptics to back her Brexit deal.
The prime minister is travelling to Brussels to meet Jean-Claude Juncker, the European commission president, with a plan to secure legal assurances that the Irish backstop would not permanently bind the UK into a customs union.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/19/brexit-backstop-may-rules-out-malthouse-compromise
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Having already chosen to cease the effect of the EU treaties at the end of March the UK of GB&NI has two possible escape routes: revoke Article 50 notice or accept the EU's withdrawal deal.
They don't seem to have the port infrastructure, legal framework, staff or software to do what they claim to want to do. Or the agreement of the people who'd need to agree.
Most people carry electronic communication devices that let them speak to anybody, anywhere in the world, and to consult vast libraries, and yet we don't know what the regime intends to do to us in just 903 hours. It's quite thrilling being governed by Italian Futurists.
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`Let us leave good sense behind like a hideous husk and let us hurl ourselves, like fruit spiced with pride, into the immense mouth and breast of the world! Let us feed the unknown, not from despair, but simply to enrich the unfathomable reservoirs of the Absurd!'
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"A great sweep of madness brought us sharply back to ourselves and drove us through the streets, steep and deep, like dried up torrents. Here and there unhappy lamps in the windows taught us to despise our mathematical eyes. "Smell," I exclaimed,"smell is good enough for wild beasts!"
I'm not joking. We are in the hands of Italian Futurists.
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Well we know how that ended up: with blackshirts on the march and Il Duce leading a fascist government for 21 years, 18 of them as dictator.
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Privately, officials are in no joking mood, with frustration over Brexit “groundhog day” running high. One senior EU diplomat said May was to blame for failing to confront hardline Eurosceptic Tories. “She gave the impression that you can stay in your delusional comfort zone, but you can’t,” the diplomat said. “Unless she is ready to choose there is nothing we can do.”
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For every Brexit situation there is a Goodfellas quote.
"We had a problem and we tried to do everything that we could."
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878 hours to go. I do hope the British parliament can bring the country together soon.
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The British side now privately admit that a timelimit or unilateral exit mechanism on the backstop will not be accepted by the EU.
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He argued that by opposing Brexit, and by fighting the SNP on its record on public services, Labour could win again.
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Surely she won’t get away with this?
Then again...
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The 'government' has issued a 'report' on the thing that happens automatically in 749 hours unless they actively agree something else with all the people they've spent years belittling, ignoring and insulting;
Also Nigel Farage is now suggesting mass abstention by his supporters in any third referendum. He truly is the dog that caught the car and now dearly wishes to uncatch it.
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