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Do we need an EU referendum thread? (Brexit thread)

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  • Started 8 years ago by I were right about that saddle
  • Latest reply from chdot

  1. PS
    Member

    I can't believe May will show enough imagination to do anything but put her deal back in as before. However, presumably it will be an amendable motion to which various ideas could be attached. One will be the Kyle/WIlson amendment to accept the deal on the proviso that it is put to a referendum. Who knows whether it would pass now? That may depend on the order the amendments are voted on - if it's the last one and the only alternative to no deal (or going to Brussels begging for a long extension) then maybe it would.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

  3. paddyirish
    Member

    I signed this about 9.45 last night. I was around number 140,000. Its 6.30am and a further quarter of a million people have signed overnight. Shows there is some strong pro EU feeling out there.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. gembo
    Member

    Nearly 427,000 now

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I just watched the odd lady's speech and if I understand correctly she's not very keen on the notion of a sovereign Crown in parliament.

    Neither am I, but, I suspect, for very different reasons.

    She seemed to be fairly close to inciting people to apply pressure to MPs. Depending on the form the pressure took that could be very normal or highly abnormal. The notion of a leader being hindered in carrying out the people's will by bourgeois democrats is familiar from other times and places.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    Petition currently adding 100k per hour.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Look where the petitioners are. Islands in the stream, that is what we are.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    Broken

    502 Bad Gateway

    nginx

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    Back on

    Only 90k per hour

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Somebody's DDOS'd the petition?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    By midnight on Wednesday, the petition had 300,000 signatures and by 8am it had passed 500,000 signatures, with the highest number of signatories in the Edinburgh constituencies, Bristol West, Cambridge, Hornsey and Wood Green, and Brighton Pavilion.

    https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/revoke-article-50-petition-1-5950314

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    Definitely broken only added about 1000 in last 1/2 hour

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. cb
    Member

    "Somebody's DDOS'd the petition?"

    We are - by continually checking it to see how well it is doing.
    If you've signed then leave it be!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The UK of GB&NI's begging letter has been rejected, as the odd woman must have known was inevitable.

    This is surely the most humiliating thing ever to happen to that country. Way beyond Suez, on a par with the Battle of France. They're utterly exposed as sweaty chancers, crooks, lunatics and dimwits.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. steveo
    Member

    what even with the mention of Grimsby. Will nothing please EU bureaucrats!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The Declaration of Grimsby. English equivalent of the Declaration of Arbroath?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin


    Petitions is down for maintenance
    We know about it and we're working on it.

    Please try again later.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin


    She said the petition "didn't do very well for a week".

    "I nearly gave up but then I contacted a lot of people and it took off," she added.

    A House of Commons spokesperson said the site crashed on Thursday morning because of "a large and sustained load on the system".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-47652071

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

  20. amir
    Member

    If you want to see the total number of signatures to the petition but don't want to contribute to the site overload, see https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584/count.json

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. MediumDave
    Member

    I have tried signing a few times over the past 12 hours or so but don't get an email to confirm my sig. Either the government mailservers are choked or Google is greylisting them. I should try with a different email account.

    Still getting occasional 502 errors from the nginx proxy as well. Tee hee.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. paddyirish
    Member

    over 1m

    @mediumdave- have you checked your spam box?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. acsimpson
    Member

    The website might be working currently but it seems the email confirmations are still not working.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. Colonies_Chris
    Member

    I would much prefer a second referendum, as parliament calling a halt would just enrage Leavers by confirming their suspicions that the establishment is conspiring to frustrate the 'will of the people'. However, at this late stage, I feel we can no longer afford to worry about such niceties. At least this petition will remind MPs that almost half the country never wanted to start on this path at all. Hopefully Saturday's People's Vote demo in London will be huge too.
    Stil can't sign it though - just getting a 502 error each time I try.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. MediumDave
    Member

    @paddyirish Oh yes. I tried it with another account (for which I can access the logs) but no delivery attempts there yet.

    Update - just got the confirmation to gmail. Looking at the headers, it seems that the petitions site is using Amazon SES for emailing. No greylisting from google so presumably whatever process that actually calls SES to send emails is backed up.

    Still can't confirm though as "petitions is down for maintenance". Ha!

    Is this the hand of the Brexiteer deep state? :)

    Posted 5 years ago #
  26. unhurt
    Member

  27. minus six
    Member

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  28. gembo
    Member

    Nearly 2 million now.

    The second time I saw Pere ubu they gave the audience a binary vote- did we want a new song or sixty seconds of their old song sixty seconds over Tokyo. We all voted for the latter

    Posted 5 years ago #
  29. minus six
    Member

    as would be only fitting, gembo-san

    suicide were supporting elvis costello in the 1978 gig above, and the howling punters had no idea they were witnessing history

    unlike today where history is being rewritten by the hour

    didn't francis fukuyama abolish history in the nineties ?

    and yet here we all are, ever ready to pish on the grave of neo-liberal capitalist realism, first chance we possibly get

    plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

    Posted 5 years ago #
  30. paddyirish
    Member

    Over 2 million now

    Posted 5 years ago #

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