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Not clear (to me) if HoC can actually block it past October.
The only way to block it is to revoke Article 50 or agree the EU's deal.
The former gets the signatory of the revocation letter shot dead in due course and they manifestly can't do the latter.
“and they manifestly can't do the latter”
That’s the thing.
They haven’t managed so far.
Now minds will be concentrated.
Assuming there remains a majority of MPs against ‘no deal’, how much will they be willing to pass the TMay deal?
Or a nuanced version that EU might offer - no negotiation - ‘how about agreeing to this? It’s not the May Deal or NO Deal, your choice’.
‘P.s if you stay in we want Farage out’.
Man on radio just now -
“I voted Remain, but people voted to leave, so we should just get out.”
If only things we so simple.
Made an error - C&U party got four seats vs SNP on three.
Responses on results make you wonder what 'truly respecting the will of the people really means.
The first vote was dismissed by some as a protest vote - but with only a binary option given then that is what happens.
Now I hear that this EU vote doesn't mean that much as turnout was 'only' 40%. In Scotland 30 out of 32 council areas had an SNP majority (Av
of 37.8% of vote). Orkney and Shetland had LD majority (traditional choice).
Contrast this with UK media obsession with Farage and Tory celebrity contest and I would conclude that many people in Scotland actively want to distance themselves from these characters. Corbyn has not improved Labour's chances either.
If views here are considered irrelevant then I expect the next voting exercise will confirm that politics in Scotland will not converge.
EU results not a binary choice either - with Scotland subject to much media 'promotion' of the BP.
The BP (Av UK vote c30% / Scotland c15%) has got a Scottish voice or two so may try to garner more votes here by 'considering Scotland's place in the union'. Useful to show that they are listening etc and in contrast to Tory leadership contenders?
Doubt it will fool that many though after 'the Vow' fiasco.
Regardless of the outcome it's a somewhat horrible thought that there are people who consider him suitable to be prime minister.
Define suitable...
Would be useful to see the job description for PM.
CEO? Competent manager? PR executive? World travelling diplomat? Thinker?
I think it’s part of the May problem was that the PM job is combined with party leader.
Perhaps PM should be like the Speaker, ‘above party politics’.
Perhaps PM should be like the Speaker, ‘above party politics’.
That's the Queen surely? Picks the prime minister on the advice of her Commoners who can recommend anyone they fancy.
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He said: “No-deal Brexit on 31 October is back to being a racing certainty.
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There's a short story I really liked - James Kelman maybe? - where a guy jumps off a ledge for the feeling of freedom but as he falls for days it becomes clear that he has jumped into a dark conical hole where the walls narrow very gently and in the end he comes to a halt wedged fast at the point, deep underground with no way forward or back.
“with no way forward or back”
Maybe UK has already gone more back than forward?
Rockall dispute... view from Dublin and EU consequences.
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/editorial/the-irish-times-view-on-rockall-dispute-1.3920975
State media here have reported it with much heavier criticism of Holyrood.
@Laidback
Can't get behind the paywall, but the Irish arrested and tried some Northern Irish fishermen earlier this year as the Irish had ripped up some reciprocal arrangement on the back of a legal challenge from Irish fishermen.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47413901
Fair degree of hypocrisy and beggar-thy-neighbour on all sides seemingly.
By my reading the article makes it sound as if everyone was rather embarrassed about the arrests, and would like the situation to be formally restored to what it was before the argument about seed mussels broke out.
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The letter in response from Barnier, however, offered Barclay little succour. There is concern in Brussels that the UK is seeking to renegotiate the withdrawal agreement by stealth.
Barnier wrote that the citizens’ rights part of the withdrawal agreement was part of an “overall and comprehensive approach” to Brexit that could not be picked apart, including the Irish backstop to avoid a hard border on the island of Ireland which Barnier said was to the “benefit of people residing there”.
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Blogger and forumer nobrakes rebrands...
https://bike.scot/2019/06/21/small-site-changes/
...sure some / many will agree.
Part 2...
The travesty of democracy expressed through the Tory party leadership votes makes me despair. This is a party with very low polling in Scotland - no matter which way it is spun. This is a party that campaigned for people to vote for them so there would be no more referendums anywhere in UK and particularly in Scotland (aka a democratic vote to end democracy. They failed and Ruth Davidson should take the blame but won't as she is perceived as the rising star in the south).
Now they want us to sit back and watch as they slowly choose a leader. Political distraction and hoop-la! No other party would get away with it but thanks to the state broadcasters that will happen. As Scotland doesn't have any mass media we are reduced to being spectators. Our views didn't even rate a mention in last debate - not that I was watching. State media is distorting political debate now with pretend democracy. There is no balance - only one right winger against another right winger after all the other 'making up the numbers' right wingers were eliminated. We have another month of this non-contest.
Media of course likes hubristic statements about how the EU will fold to their demands etc.
Jeremy Hunt calls for live TV debates before Tory voting begins
Ancient voting rights in England
Restricted to males by custom rather than statute.
County franchise – freeholders of a property freehold (not restricted to land) worth 40 shillings. Every county returned MPs.
Borough franchise – Varied from borough to borough but usually dependent on residence, a property qualification / tenure or the status as a freeman or a mixture. In some boroughs the franchise was restricted to members of the corporation running the borough. Writs were only issued to certain boroughs.
University franchise – Oxford and Cambridge each had two MPs elected by members of the Senates of each university.
https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/RP13-14
University constituencies were introduced to England by James VI when he got his second job. Does 1603 count as "ancient"? I suppose it probably does.
@Frenchy
The history of voting in England begins with the establishment of parliament in 1236, that in 'Other pre-1832 Parliamentary franchises' from the date they were incorporated into England.
Fintan O'Toole in today's National. Excellent piece from new Luath book.
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Alternative arrangements for keeping the Irish border open in the event of a no-deal Brexit or the collapse of future trade talks with the EU could be up and running within three years, a report concludes.
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Interesting that Wee Nic's appeals to the disaster of Boris are coming to fruition, and now 54% of Scots now was indy if there Boris is PM (crossover with other thread).
Thing is, despite his words, even if he becomes PM, he will find out as May did before him that Brexit is more difficult to achieve than he thought.
Once Brexit fails again on the 31st Oct he will fall on his sword, and there will have to be either a referendum, or a GE. Either way it will lead to his downfall.
He wont be in office long enough to wreck anything...
(maybe some wishful thinking, but I think Union is safe for now)
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