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Do we need an EU referendum thread? (Brexit thread)
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I do hope active travel funding is ring-fenced when the revolution comes.
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We shall have no choice comrade. We will have eaten all the donkeys.
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At least we won't have any more TRO hearings once civilisation falls.
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With a looming Brexit deadline in October and growing European distrust of Britain’s inclination to meet outstanding obligations, the standoff may resemble the dynamics of the UK’s negotiations to leave the EU.“
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Joanna Cherry QC MP
@joannaccherry
Boris Johnson secretly agreed to suspend parliament 2 weeks before denying it wd happen. Just 9 days ago No.10 strongly denied any intention to #prorogue parliament - but disclosure to Scottish court shows otherwiseThis transitory PM supported by all Scottish Tory MPs - assume as they don't want to be called 'traitors' by their colleagues. (See many such responses to Ruth D tweet above).
https://twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1168856221887205376
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If that’s right, it is surely the most high-risk electoral strategy ever attempted in this country. It knowingly alienates moderate Tory voters who have always quite liked, say, Ken Clarke, thereby writing off a string of seats – in the south and the West Country – that are likely to fall to the Liberal Democrats. It similarly dooms the Tories in Scotland. So Johnson will begin the next election campaign with that immediate handicap. The Cummings plan is to make up for those lost seats, and gain many more, by winning pro-leave seats in the Midlands and north of England, many of them Labour-held, chiefly by neutralising the Brexit party. Why vote for Nigel Farage when you can get a no-deal, full-monty Brexit with Johnson?
The trouble with that is,
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No need to worry. The most important issues are sorted.
We will have Lego.
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Court of Session case ruled that BJ had right to porogue parliament at first instance.
This is not the end as Joanna Cherry & Co will appeal. They've had to do this on previous occasions and ended up winning. Of course by time they get final ruling a lot will have happened. (Or not)
Seems an odd result when Lord Doherty granted an interim ruling. So at one stage it's important enough to have a sworn statement from BJ but a few days later it's considered a purely political matter for a state with no written constitution.
When Scotland does get more self rule then we must have a working WC:-)
Gina Miller's case starts in London tomorrow Will legal ruling here have any effect there?Posted 5 years ago # -
When Scotland does get more self rule then we must have a working WC
We'd be up the proverbial creek without one, anyway.
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Ms Cherry's case was based exclusively on Scots law and in particular the 1689 Act of Claim of Right. It was heard in a court not set up by the Crown but by the Scottish parliament.
No link to the Common Law case in a Crown court which takes place in another country.
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my ferret will be livid at the prospect of missing the upcoming jaunt to prague
sorry chum, but boris don't care if you self-identify as a european polecat
its whitby, torquay or margate from now on
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@iwrats - Scottish court is not subservient to the Crown as you say.
The appeal is being made tomorrow. Not sure where it goes from there. Article 50 case one ended up in Luxembourg after a hearing in London.Posted 5 years ago # -
@iwrats the Petitioners' case is wholly based on the application of UK law. The Claim of Right was pleaded in support but swiftly dropped when Lord Doherty, properly, requested a more recent precedent,
The Court of Session was established by the Scottish Crown, being an evolution from the Crown's counsel.
The First Minister currently appoints the judiciary, on recommendation, but that is quite far from establishing the Court.
As any lawyer will tell you.
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Interesting. I'd no idea there was such a thing as UK law.
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Anything, for example, passed by the UK parliament?
Though it may be tested in the English, Irish, or Scots Courts.
(Income tax, which has the largest body of legislation and upper court case law of any subject, is the cleanest example, being passed in its entirety by the post Union parliament).
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According to a leaked diplomatic note seen by the Financial Times, Mr Barnier said: “we are currently in a state of paralysis”.
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One for Radio 4 listeners.
https://twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1169507341215158272?s=19Posted 5 years ago # -
https://twitter.com/mdouganlpool/status/1169541693764526080?s=09
"Briefings for Johnson's speech later today merely confirm what we all know already: it will be yet another torrent of lies, fantasies, abuse and scapegoating...
But the point of such massive, systematic, conscious dishonesty isn't actually to convince people that "night is day". The real aim is to undermine the citizen's sense of / faith in the very idea of truth, probity, evidence, rational analysis...
The result of such post-truth populism? Trust noone because "they're all the same". Substitute instincts and beliefs for facts and evaluation. Grow indifferent to the gross abasement of our politics and public discourse."
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It also warned that “difficult trading conditions”, particularly in the event of a no-deal Brexit, might leave it without sufficient cash to deliver its three-year rescue plan.
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Boris Johnson calls David Cameron 'girly swot' in leaked note
The man is malignant.
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No 10 has about 20 different options to defy law intended to block no deal, Tory Brexiter claims
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Some Twitter discussion suggesting that the only possible slogan for a Revoke campaign is surely Make It Stop .
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