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Tracking Rubbish Driving?

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  • Started 8 years ago by Roibeard
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  1. Roibeard
    Member

    Should we use Google maps to record rubbish driving? The goal being to highlight hotspots where engineering interventions are required.

    I caught an interesting article, probably middle of the night BBC News, on Safecity.in, which is crowdsourcing the locations of sexual harassment or abuse on Indian streets. The idea being to alert visitors of areas to be more cautious, and to pressurise the authorities to act - the police are unlikely to be interested in a single report, however if an area is shown to be problematic to many, then action might be more likely.

    It struck me that there were parallels with the (much lesser) abuse and threatening behaviour experienced by cyclists - I say "much lesser" on the basis that actual harm to Edinburgh cyclists is much less likely than actual harm to Indian women.

    If we tracked where the Rubbish Driving was happening, could that make a difference en masse? We know that individual reports are unlikely to be progressed by Police Scotland, and those that are progressed are only due to the herculean efforts of the victim.

    Perhaps it's a rubbish idea, but perhaps the CCE hive mind might consider it valuable and have the expertise to implement it?

    Robert

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. wingpig
    Member

    Hmm. Could we add it as a layer of annotations to the council atlas?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. steveo
    Member

    Its not a bad idea tbh. Even if the council don't care it would be handy to help divert newbies and experienced cyclists around. Though it might just end up looking like a map of busy roads.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. wingpig
    Member

    As with the good and bad infrastructure maps - if we mapped good driving too it's perhaps be useful as a way of identifying infrastructure which doesn't help elicit poor driver behaviour...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. neddie
    Member

    If the incidents could be weighted/compensated against the motor-traffic "busy-ness" of a road, it could highlight bad spots relative to the type of road.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. dougal
    Member

    @wingpig I only notice good driving when it's on bad infrastructure. If the driver has the chance of being dangerous (particularly if many drivers are dangerous in the same situation) then I really appreciate the good ones.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. wingpig
    Member

    "...when it's on bad infrastructure..."

    Wilfully bad infra, or just anything (everything) non-segregated?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. dougal
    Member

    Yeah, probably all non-segregated infrastructure...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. Brown
    Member

    Try

    http://collideosco.pe/

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. wingpig
    Member

  11. lorlane
    Member

    I think it would be very useful for cyclists using unfamiliar stretches of road which perhaps have local notoriety but a first-time user might not necessarily appreciate the inherent risks brought about by signage/infrastructure that puts you in harms way or that which is regularly flouted by drivers who put you in harms way.

    As for how it might be acted upon by those who could make a difference - who knows? It's a bit like how the attention given to HGV/bike frequency of collisions statistics resulted in a campaign to make cyclists "stay back" from all manner of vehicles!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. sallyhinch
    Member

    http://bikeportland.org/2015/09/11/new-ride-report-app-gives-every-portlander-power-evaluate-streets-158767 (just Portland for now)

    It did sound as if the Near Miss Project people were going to look harder at road conditions, including infrastructure, in future rounds of analysis so it may be worth signing up for that if you haven't already http://www.nearmiss.bike/

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. Roibeard
    Member

    @Brown - that looks like the sort of thing.

    I'm not in favour of reinventing the wheel, so if such a thing is a good idea, why don't we use it?

    I does seem to include recent incidents in Edinburgh, so worth a try again?

    Apologies to Kim for not remembering it!

    Robert

    Posted 8 years ago #

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