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"20mph limits get green light for Scots trunk roads"

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  1. chdot
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    20MPH speed limits will be introduced on main routes in five towns for the first time as part of a new road safety experiment, the Scottish Government’s Transport Scotland agency has announced.

    The first, on the A77 at Maybole in Ayrshire, starts on Monday, with Largs, Biggar, Langholm and Oban to follow.

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    http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/20mph-limits-get-green-light-for-scots-trunk-roads-1-3888210

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. crowriver
    Member

    "The Institute of Advanced Motorists said by-passes rather than lower speed limits were the answer."

    Does Keith "By-passes for all" Brown know this? How about Derek "Cycle paths are a matter for local authorities" Mackay?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. kaputnik
    Moderator

    By-passes don't stop people driving through town centres, even if they re-route a portion of traffic around. The IAM is basically saying "we want bypasses AND no speed reduction".

    If anyone can explain how you can bypass Oban given its geography, I'm open to suggestions.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. gembo
    Member

    Build a big pontoon out into the sea, flatten Lismore Island who stays there anyway and back in at the caravan site about three miles north? Will only cost trillions and will reduce accidents and there is no evidence it will reduce trade in Oban itself. May need cantilever section for the ferries to get under?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. crowriver
    Member

    @gembo, what's good for Loch Lomond has to be good for Oban, yeah? Beggar the scenery, wildlife, etc. folk need to OVERTAKE in order to complete their journeys within a reasonable timeframe!

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. Stickman
    Member

    Absolutely. All possible steps must be taken to avoid driver frustration, the curse of our age.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. crowriver
    Member

    I have a vision.

    Every village its own by-pass. Every town its own dual carriageway. Scotland must not rest until there are high speed trunk roads in every corner of the land, the better to whisk drivers to garden centres, supermarchés, theme parks and other vitally important destinations for the nation's economy.

    We shall build a utopia for motorists. If you're not a motorist, GET OUT OF THE WAY!

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    In fairness, given the amount of through traffic from the Irish Sea routes, and especially the number of HGVs, Maybole probably should have a bypass. If I lived in Maybole, I'd want a bypass, on safety and air quality grounds.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  9. wingpig
    Member

    Kirknewton gets a bit squeezy too. That narrow bit in Maybole is never going to be fun when a bus and an HGV want to use it at the same time. 20mph is a good start as things will hopefully be careering along less speedily when they notice that they're going to have to slow down or stop and shuffle through. Could traffic lights which only switch on when large vehicles approach, so that buses/HGVs have to go through one direction at a time but narrower things can go concurrently but slowly?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  10. kaputnik
    Moderator

    For the record, there's already a £27million scheme to built a 4.8km bypass around Maybole...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  11. cb
    Member

    Langholm discussed two years ago.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  12. cc
    Member

    @cb bravo, I was just about to post that.

    See also David's update of the post - (a) Langholm's geography is no excuse; (b) he's making a general point.

    the original blog post about Langholm

    Posted 9 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    Posted 9 years ago #

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