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"we will be conducting the Edinburgh Garden District Charrette"

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  1. cb
    Member

    "I presume there's an Edinburgh developers' version"

    Seriously, that would be a great game.
    Someone write it please.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  2. kaputnik
    Moderator

    write it please

    once could probably do it using the SCURK (urban renewal kit). Although a lot of time would be needed in paintbrush doing the isometric bitmaps

    Posted 13 years ago #
  3. spitfire
    Member

    all the buildings could be nabbed from google streetview...

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. wingpig
    Member

    It's a pity that it wasn't mandatory for the planners/investors/developers to supply computer models of planned developments like this (and the proposed Canonmills abomination) instead of just artists' impressions from carefully-selected angles. Concerned members of the public could then generate potential hideous views from various vantage points to better demonstrate the impacts of this sort of thing at ground level. Even a requirement to produce an artist's impression of the project in mid-construction when there's nowt to see but miles of shoddy fencing, mounds of earth, Portakabins and excavators where there was once a nice field would be good.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    "Jim Lowrie, the council's current planning convenor, said: "It does look like Murray Estates is flying a kite with these proposals. Although there is some development in the west of the city this is clearly green belt land. It is against the current policies of the council. That's not obvious from their plans."

    http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/news/Sir-David-Murray39s-firm-accused.6608641.jp

    Posted 13 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    "SIR David Murray's property company has vowed to press ahead with plans to build a stadium on green belt land in west Edinburgh, even if Hearts and Edinburgh Rugby don't agree to play in it."

    http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Murray39s-firm-won39t-lose-heart.6611098.jp

    Posted 13 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

  8. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Edinburgh Garden Charade indeed

    Posted 13 years ago #
  9. Morningsider
    Member

    Actually, no-one has focussed on the important part of the Chief Planners' speech. According to The Scotsman he said "I tend to think the proposals have a wider resonance than just Edinburgh".

    The Scottish Planning Policy (which sets out the Scottish Government's view on these matters) states "Where a proposal would not normally be consistent with green belt policy, it may still be considered appropriate either as a national priority or to meet an established need if no other suitable site is available".

    I would argue that the Chief Planner is hinting that this proposal could get the go-ahead as "wider resonance than just Edinburgh" could possibly be interpreted as "national priority". Just my view of course - I'm sure the Chief Planner would argue he is neither against or in-favour of the development.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    "Hearts chiefs are considering Sir David Murray's proposal to build a stadium on green belt land in west Edinburgh, but said they were working with a "blank piece of paper" and were open to all suggestions."

    http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Hearts-fans-39ready-to-accept39.6772863.jp

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    "But he also dismissed a pledge by Hearts' Lithuanian director Vitalijus Vasiliauskas that any new site would be "walking distance from Tynecastle" by pointing out that there are no sites big enough for a football stadium anywhere near the club's current ground."

    http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/Tynecastle-sale-set-to-kickstart.6774102.jp

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    "She also said that former Rangers owner Sir David Murray, below, wants to use the idea of creating a new Hearts stadium on land he owns in the west of the city as an excuse to develop on the green belt."

    http://news.scotsman.com/edinburgh/Hearts-attacked-over-39biased39-fan.6837988.jp

    Posted 12 years ago #
  13. kaputnik
    Moderator

    More speculative hot air from Murray Estates. Why he thinks he can attract £1 billion in funding while other major developments in the city (Quartermile, Springside, Granton, Western Harbour, Fountainbridge etc.) seem to be stalled for lack of funds is anyone's guess.

    http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/garden-district-plan-on-edinburgh-greenbelt-1-2973197

    Posted 10 years ago #
  14. EddieD
    Member

    It's funny how small the green bits are in this "garden district" project.

    It looks a bit usefully close to a tram line that the council are looking justifications for though, for the paranoid hippy in me to be happy it's hot air this time.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  15. Coxy
    Member

    Oh God! I'm finding myself agreeing with some of the comments!

    Help!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    "
    “The area out near the airport isn’t Edinburgh,” he said. “It might only be a few miles from the Maybury but it’s 100 miles as far as concert-goers are concerned.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-ditches-plans-for-hydro-concert-venue-1-3420727

    Posted 9 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

  18. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Developers have submitted proposals for 1500 homes which they said would turn land next to Edinburgh Park and the Royal Bank of Scotland headquarters at Gogarburn into a “Cambridge-style growth area” capable of powering the city’s wider economic expansion.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/garden-district-plans-for-capital-back-in-business-1-3895497

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. HankChief
    Member

    Missed this first time round...

    Specific objections to this proposal now has it's own thread...

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15631

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/garden-district-plan-aims-to-restore-gogar-burn-1-4068164

    Contains 'misinformation' about the Gogar Burn.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. wingpig
    Member

    "semi-stagnant passage"

    Praise the developers, rescuing the burn from manky underground servitude and creating biodiverse greenspaces.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    "Praise the developers, rescuing the burn from manky underground servitude"

    Indeed, except that the underground bits are beneath Edinburgh Park, the bypass and the airport.

    So not really (un)covered by this proposed development!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    Apparently there is a map in the paper and (I think) the idea is to short cut (and have visible) between the two places it goes under the bypass.

    Seems like a good idea that shouldn't need to depend on building thousands of houses!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    EN commenter -

    "

    Surely a proper local newspaper should be challenging this PR guff rather than uncritically parroting it? Murray bought this land for £2000 an acre. It will be worth £1 million an acre if the council caves in and allows him to build over it.

    "

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

    Last year Murray Capital received a “minded to” planning permission decision for 1,300 houses at its Edinburgh Garden District site in west Edinburgh. The decision was called in by the Scottish Government with the outcome due at the start of next year.

    http://www.scotsman.com/business/sir-david-murray-donates-1-5m-to-new-charity-1-4580464

    (I presume there is a newer thread about this project.)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

  27. cb
    Member

    "the steel tycoon was seeking almost £2million for the [...] three bedroom villa"

    Hmmm, maybe should have listed the gym or the wine cellar as extra bedrooms.

    The best detail kept until last:

    "The sales material highlights the fact that the owners have been granted permission to demolish the two-storey mansion and build a country house in the Art Deco style."

    Posted 6 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    Redheughs Village, proposed by ex-Ibrox chief Sir David Murray, was supported by councillors when plans were initially tabled back in 2015.

    However, the development – which would be the first stage of the £1 billion “Garden District” built on land near Royal Bank of Scotland’s Gogarburn headquarters – was held up due to concerns over the potential environmental impact by Science and Advice for Agricultural Services (SASA).

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/government-overrules-city-council-to-approve-1400-new-homes-near-edinburgh-airport-1-4735706

    Posted 6 years ago #

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