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  1. Stickman
    Member

    From the Spokes bulletin, some consultations in the next couple of weeks:

    http://www.spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/1607-15-action-update.pdf

    Grange Road Weds 20 July, 5-8pm, Newington Library. The project is to improve crossing points for cyclists and pedestrians, with options of 3 cycle/pedestrian zebra crossings or 2 light-controlled. [Recent changes in government regulations now allow side-by-side cycle/pedestrian zebras].
     Easter Road Tue 26 July, 5-8pm, McDonald Road Library. A cycle/ped crossing and segregated cycleway connecting Brunswick Road and Bothwell Street, which form part of the Council's quiet route no.20.
     McDonald Road Tue 26 July, 5-8pm, McDonald Road Library. This is also part of Quiet Route 20. The ped/cycle crossing of Broughton Rd from St Marks Park will be improved and cycle lanes installed on the section of McDonald Road which does not already have them. Also other changes, including removing the road centre line (as the council did for the Gogar Station Road cycle lanes) and installing a raised table at the entrance to McDonald Road.
     Quiet Route #61 Wed 27 July, 5-8pm, Craigmillar Library. This route links Duddingston, Niddrie, the Royal Infirmary, Moredun and Gilmerton to Midlothian and Rosslyn Chapel, largely on quiet roads and traffic free paths. The project is to improve those sections which are poor for cycling and/or walking, including... Gilmerton Road – crossing and short segregated link; Old Dalkeith Road – new and improved toucan crossings and linking paths; Niddrie House Avenue – cycle exemption to the current no entry; Hay Avenue – shared use of Hay Avenue footway and improved underpass

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Ooh, thanks for the heads up for the McDonald Road to Bothwell Street section! Would love to see the detail and support such a scheme.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. crowriver
    Member

    I can't make the consultation as I'l be at work, unfortunately.

    Anyone find a link to a PDF of the proposals perchance?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. cc
    Member

    I was in Newington Library last night and didn't notice any consultation material - just the usual knitting group (I think). So I'd also like to see a PDF if there is one?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. Roibeard
    Member

    Sorry cc, I spotted you, but assumed you'd already contributed, and I was struggling to spot the consultation, so didn't take time to chat.

    It was setup to the right, on the partition for the computer area, but facing the rear of the library.

    It was preculiarly difficult to find!

    Robert

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. Roibeard
    Member

    There's limited info on the specific thread, but they had more detailed plans for discussion at the consultation.

    It seemed to be very early in the process, so there will be other opportunities, I suspect.

    Robert

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. chrispaton
    Member

    I went to the QR20 (McDonald Road and Easter Road) and QR61 (south east) consultations this week. Both had a representative from the council and a representative from AECOM (the consultants) who were really helpful and happy to chat in great detail about the plans.

    I shan't spend time regurgitating all the detail as the good news is that all the stuff will be going onto the council consultation portal in early August and they'll be inviting comments then. Overall though the plans looked pretty reasonable given the constraints.

    It sounds like there will likely be another round of consultations in September for other parts of work contracted out to AECOM under "Work package 1" detailed at http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/download/meetings/id/49691/item_713_-_approval_for_walking_and_cycling (page 9/10). Exciting times :-)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. crowriver
    Member

    @chrispaton, thanks, good to know as this was the consultation I couldn't make. Will peruse the council web site in August...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. neddie
    Member

    Some of these consultations now published online:

    Cycling and walking improvements on McDonald Road
    https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/design-cycle-walk-mcdonald-road
    The closing date for this consultation is 4 September 2016

    Cycling and walking improvements between Niddrie, Moredun and Gilmerton
    https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/design-cycle-walk-niddrie-gilmerton-moredun
    The closing date for this consultation is 4 September 2016

    Use of Public Space
    https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/bi/use-of-public-space
    The closing date for this consultation is 6 September 2016

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. neddie
    Member

    Have just filled out the online consultation for McDonald Rd.

    My main comment was:

    "The cycle lanes need to go on the other side of the parked cars so that the parked cars offer protection to cyclists from moving traffic."

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. neddie
    Member

    It's well worth filling out the online surveys for the above, even if only to register support:

    McDonald Rd survey

    Niddrie/Gilmerton survey

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. wingpig
    Member

    Done Macdonald Road. Needs more at the Broughton Road junction, perhaps even markedly changing the slopes of the road to get rid of the simultaneous uphill/road-twist-to-west/exposed-in-the-middle-of-the-lane/vehicles-turning-right-into-road-blocking-path-ahead problem.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. Frenchy
    Member

    That's an improvement at Gilmerton Road, but both the existing and proposed plans are missing the cycle lane on the left hand side heading northbound. I hope they're not planning on removing it.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. newtoit
    Member

    Gilmerton Road plan is just missing a few miles of segregated lane in each direction...

    The merge into the traffic at the southern end of it next to the pinch point doesn't look great - especially if drivers expect people cycling N-S to go into the lane for 100m.

    Looks a pretty useful link though, if we do insist on going down the dual network route. That roundabout way from Lasswade Road to the Innocent is a bit of a pain to follow so any signage improvements would also be welcome. Looked as if some kind residents in Moredun and Niddrie had messed with the signs last time I tried to follow it!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. jonty
    Member

    I actually quite like it - it's much better than the Innocent to Meadows path in that it would actually be possible, and potentially desirable, to use it when travelling on the main road, and it'd be no bother to extend it in later years to encompass a longer stretch of road. Needs clear marking to highlight the two-way bits though!

    Perhaps the red paint should continue through the island (alerting pedestrians to look right even if they can't hear cars) and then a bit of central hatching should be sacrificed to allow space for a bit of extra kerb protection, and then painted hatching, as cyclists rejoin the road.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. c30c60
    Member

    A reminder that the Mcdonald Rd consultation closes on 4 Sep. (How do I create a neat text link?)
    https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/design-cycle-walk-mcdonald-road/consult_view

    I don't see anything that will make the road more pleasant and I was slipping into ranty style by the end.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. neddie
    Member

    Just seen the response to the Macdonald Rd scheme by Broughton Primary parent council and it is pretty scathing of the scheme:

    - The cycle (and walking) improvements are described as insufficient to encourage parents and children to cycle to school.
    - Segregated lanes are requested.
    - Concludes with "A much more ambitious scheme is needed"

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    "A much more ambitious scheme is needed"

    Goes for most CEC walk/cycle schemes!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. Stickman
    Member

    Grange Road consultation is open. Can't remember if it has its own thread.

    https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/design-cycle-walk-grange-road/

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. chrispaton
    Member

    Grange Road thread: http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16604 :-)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. fimm
    Member

    Not sure where to put this, something I saw on Facebook to do with a potential blocking of the Water of Leith walkway at the Kinlieth Mill site (wherever that is - is that the new housing that's going in?)

    I write to confirm that the hearing session for the above Order will take place on Thursday 29 September 2016 within the Gibson Craig Hall, 156 Lanark Road West, Currie EH14 5NY.
    The hearing will commence at 14:00pm within the small hall and is expected to finish around 17:00 pm. You may be interested to note that this venue has full disabled access.

    Quote from Facebook, I don't know what "the above order" is exactly. Just thought it could do with some wider publicity?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. jonty
    Member

    Kinleith Mill is the new housing that is going in below Currie, yeah. (It was a paper mill, with railway sidings, before that.) I assume there's going to be a redirection to the path like at the new development near Colinton and that's what it's about?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. fimm
    Member

    Went past there today, as it happened, and there certainly isn't any sign of any problem with access along the main Water of Leith path, so it must be access to or across the site at the Lanark Road side that is the issue.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. crowriver
    Member

    "Find out about the Street Audit Action Plan for Meadowbank to Northfield. Come along to hear the results, ask questions, share your views."

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

    "Improvement Action Plan Meadowbank to Northfield' presentation". Thread -

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16461

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    "

    What next?

    The draft plan will be out for formal consultation in March 2017. More information will be provided on the blog and the Hub in due course.

    "

    https://planningedinburgh.com/2016/10/27/old-and-new-towns-world-heritage-site-management-plan-review-consultation-results/

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. CycleAlex
    Member

    My apologies for resurrecting a dead thread but I've always been quite curious to know what happened to AT projects in late 2016/early 2017.

    From looking through the consultation hub, there was a big glut of AECOM consultations and then, well, not much. Did they pay for the consultants and just realise they didn't have the money to actually build anything?

    Most of them had construction goals of 2017/18 but I don't think any ever made it to statutory/construction except for Lower Granton Rd & Balgreen Toucan.

    Cycling and walking improvements between Niddrie, Moredun and Gilmerton - Not built.

    Cycling and walking improvements on McDonald Road - Not built.

    Cycling and walking improvements on Grange Road, Lauder Road, Tantallon Place and Lover's Loan - Not built.

    Cycling and walking improvements on Carrington Road - Not built.

    Cycling and walking improvements on Easter Road - Not built.

    Cycling and walking improvements on Bankhead Drive, Bankhead Avenue and South Gyle Access - Not built.

    Cycling and walking improvements on Balgreen Road - Built.

    Cycling and walking improvements from The Meadows to Castle Terrace - Not built.

    Cycling and walking improvements from Inverleith Place to the Goldenacre Path - Not built.

    Cycling and walking improvements on Lower Granton Road - Built.

    Walking and cycling improvements on Dean Park Crescent at Queensferry Road - Not built.

    Cycling and walking improvements in Davidson's Mains Park - Not built.

    Cycling and walking improvements from Holyrood Park to Ratcliffe Terrace - Not built.

    Cycling and walking improvements between Saughton Park and QuietRoute 8 - Not built.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  28. HankChief
    Member

    Depressing :-(

    The Davidson's Main park did have the path through the woods tarmac'd but they Queensferry Road crossing improvements is still in the design stage.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    “Queensferry Road crossing improvements is still in the design stages”

    Presume there will now be a redesign including wider pavements, cycle lanes and single carriageway road...

    Posted 4 years ago #

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