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Why isn't Edinburgh in the top 20?..
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Posted 13 years ago #
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Why isn't Amsterdam in the top 20?
Gothenburg is good too.
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ya, twenty out of?
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" twenty out of?"
The number of "world class" "iconic" cities on the planet...
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Why isn't Edinburgh in the top 20? House prices, probably. :-(
More intruigingly, the top 20 doesn't include a single place within the UK.
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Because Edinburgh doesn't have a tram (yet...?)? [I'm only half joking - That usually counts for something in these sorts of surveys/league tables. I'm sure that was one of the key reasons the Council had for going ahead with the tram. Of course, spending significantly less on making the cycle provision considerably better might be an alternative way up the tables, but...]
I was in Munich a couple of weeks ago - it looked like a great city for cycling: loads of cycle lane provision, lots of people of all ages cycling, and flat as a pancake. [Loads of trams as well, incidentally.]
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"I'm sure that was one of the key reasons the Council had for going ahead with the tram."
Quite likely - even if only subliminally.
Apart from the actualities of the route and the management/delivery of 'Edinburgh's Tram', the council failed to understand that to become 'more like other European cities' more had to be done to encourage walking and cycling and reduce motor traffic - at least on central roads.
Some of this was in the package that might have been 'afforded' if the Congestion Charge vote had been "yes".
It wasn't - partly because it was a bad scheme (two cordons with all sorts of potential anomalies), partly because the council didn't really have a good track record on 'doing transport'...
A "no" vote was pretty inevitable when the question was seen as 'should drivers pay more'.
Ken Livingston didn't need a referendum. After the event it's been suggested that Edinburgh needn't have had one either but merely 'demonstrate support' for the idea. Mmm.
So after the "no" it wasn't really a question of 'think again', it was more like 'scale back the fluffy stuff and keep the hard' (tram lines). Only for that to be further scaled back and now an International lack of money for spending on the public.
Budget day tomorrow, money for another bridge, no more money for trams, perhaps something for "sustainable transport" and??
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A nice rigorous survey from "Monocle Magazine" (!?). How do they choose the top 25, according to the magazine:
"Each year we send researchers to urban centres that we've heard good things about, or that have been included in previous surveys"
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"urban centres that we've heard good things about"
That rules out Edinburgh for a while...
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What are British cities good at? Spirited debate expected at tomorrow's Edinburgh Lecture by Greg Clark - http://bit.ly/bdUOSe
Original Tweet: http://twitter.com/Edinburgh_CC/status/4562165704949760"
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What are British cities good at?
Good backgrounds for crime films. No-one does urban dereliction better. Taggart would be nothing without Glasgow;-)
And don't even ask me what I think about Brannagh playing at being a Swedish detective!
Krister Henriksson does it so much better.Posted 13 years ago # -
"Ingen rör sig! Det har varit ett mord!" or something like that, but with a Glasgow accent.
The eastern edge of Sheffield had some pretty impressive urban decay going, when I passed through a few years ago. I visited this summer but didn't have time to check out that part again.
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Ha ha.. Taggart could be quite amusing in Swedish.
To continue off topic...
All about believability - and British cities still seem to be better backdrops for crime.
Whatever people say about Taggart it is filmed in a city and suburbs which (sadly) have a murder rate of around 70 per year.
In a survey of homicides per head of population it was at number 5 - behind cities in the Baltic states. London was around 10. Amsterdam is 7.Ystad (home of Wallander) didn't feature of course.
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Was Midsomer at number 1?
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St Mary Mead?
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