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  1. chdot
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    DRAFT CLIMATE CHANGE PLAN

    The draft third report on policies and proposals 2017-2032

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    http://www.gov.scot/Resource/0051/00513102.pdf

    active travel 18 mentions, cycling 14

    Not going to pretend I've read them all.

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    Active travel

    9.1.8 In 2015, 1% of journeys had cycling as the main mode of transport and the average (mean) journey length was 4.7 km. For walking, the equivalent proportion cited in the Scottish Household Survey travel diary was 22%, with 14% of adults usually walking to work and 49% of children usually walking to school as their main mode of transport.

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    I was going to add the next two paragraphs for their entertainment value, but somehow copying 'broke' the PDF.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. crowriver
    Member

    Very Yes Minister.

    Aye they don't copy and paste well, but paras 9.2.1 and 9.2.2 are ludicrously contradictory. Also a masterclass in vague obfuscation.

    In other news, Scottish government aims to turn base metal into gold using hitherto untried alchemical processes.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

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    The key aims include cutting transport emissions by a third from 1990 levels, increasing forest cover by at least 15,000 hectares annually, restoring 250,000 hectares of peatlands and fully decarbonising the electricity sector – including bringing in carbon capture and storage technology.

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    http://www.scotsman.com/news/environment/scots-emissions-to-be-cut-by-66-in-15-years-under-latest-plan-1-4343809

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Some nutter has even tried to interest the Nationalists in the idea of climate change;

    http://wingsoverscotland.com/we-need-to-talk-about-the-oil/#more-90964

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. mgj
    Member

    Nothing about population, and all the low hanging fruit (Longannet and the fertiliser works that gave them the reductions previously) are gone.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. DdF
    Member

    Bike Challenge!

    How about a few CCE'ers putting in individual submissions to the draft Climate Plan, re transport/ active travel?

    They have to be in by this Friday (10th). It's very easy to do!! Just an email to Rec.committee@parliament.scot with your comments as an attachment (must be in Word).

    If you've got time to post on CCE, you've got time to email the Parliament!!

    It is not necessary to send anything long and complex. Why not just have a look at our spokes submission, pick out 2 or 3 sentences that you think particularly important, and submit that - modified if you wish? It will (hopefully) reinforce those points in the minds of the MSPs on the Cttee.

    Start your submission with 3 lines in capitals like those in the Spokes submission (with your name substituted in line 2).

    That's all you need to know, but if you want further info, here is the official press release and the official call for evidence.

    If you want to see the draft Climate Plan itself - and the excellent SPICe bulletin analysing it - find the links to those and other documents in the Spokes submission above.

    Would be great to see a few submissions from individual CCE'ers here. Get your name on the Scottish Parliament website!!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. gibbo
    Member

    @crowriver

    I think I understood the first paragraph. Basically, it's saying that the government is planning to do nothing because it's hoping that there'll be some technological breakthrough that'll solve the problem for them.

    So, in a nutshell, don't expect the active travel budget to increase from the current 1.9%.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. gibbo
    Member

    @crowdriver

    "paras 9.2.1 and 9.2.2 are ludicrously contradictory. Also a masterclass in vague obfuscation."

    IMO, anyone who writes like that should be punched in the face after each draft... until it's in plain English that clearly states what they're going to do.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. Frenchy
    Member

    @DdF

    Done!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. sallyhinch
    Member

    If you fancy a very dull couple of hours you can watch the committee session on the transport element of the climate change plan here, featuring me representing POP, Transform Scotland, two professors from Napier and someone who thinks electric cars are the answer, what was the question

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  12. sallyhinch
    Member

    Also POP's submission here http://www.parliament.scot/S5_Rural/Transport_-_Pedal_on_Parliament.pdf

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. chdot
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    As a former resident of Los Angeles and new transplant to the Boston metro area, I have witnessed the leadership of both city governments in acting on clean energy, efficient building design and low carbon transportation. Mayor Eric Garcetti of Los Angeles and Mayor Marty Walsh of Boston are both members of global leadership networks including the C40 Cities Climate Leadership Group and the Compact of Mayors and have signed on to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and collaborate on strategies to achieve shared climate goals. At the 2017 U.S. Conference of Mayors January meeting, Garcetti and Walsh agreed that “for many mayors, climate action is not the partisan issue it has become at the federal level.” While the U.S. Federal Government is an important player in achieving global climate goals, cities are pushing forward regardless of the White House’s position.

    Both chief executives of these respective coastal cities wholly accept the responsibility local communities have in protecting inhabitants from the instability of a changing climate. Whether managing water resources during a 5+ year drought or preparing the city for sea level rise in the coming decades, Mayors Garcetti and Walsh are wasting no time in getting to work. Each city is guided by their own climate action plan: the Sustainable City pLAn for the City of Angels and Greenovate Boston for Beantown.

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    http://www.sustainablecitiescollective.com/global-site-plans-grid/1305396/climate-action-city-level-how-do-boston-and-la-compare

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. Colonies_Chris
    Member

    @DdF - comments submitted.
    Isn't it a bit odd that submissions must be in Word format, but all the published docs are PDFs?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. neddie
    Member

    Isn't it a bit odd that submissions must be in [Microsoft] Word format

    They know that all the leftie eco-hippies only use Linux & Libre Office and so won't be able to respond

    <joking>

    Posted 7 years ago #
  16. Frenchy
    Member

    Isn't it a bit odd that submissions must be in Word format, but all the published docs are PDFs?

    It's easier to copy/paste comments from a Word document than from some pdfs. I imagine they'd have been quite happy with any text file.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  17. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I've submitted my hard-right ultra-libertarian comments. Suggested flaring off fracked gas through the Kelpies' nostrils just to see Patrick Harvie weep.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  18. DdF
    Member

    @frenchy @Colonies_Chris @I were right about that saddle

    That's great! Hopefully your submissions will soon appear here. Surprised they didn't get @frenchy's on today as it was submitted last night.

    Still time for other CCE'ers to follow your example! Instructions in my post yesterday.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  19. Frenchy
    Member

    Surprised they didn't get @frenchy's on today as it was submitted last night.

    Do they definitely publish submissions from individuals there too?

    They may have to translate mine first, I took them up on the offer of being able to submit it in Scots...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  20. neddie
    Member

    Done!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  21. DdF
    Member

    @frenchy @Colonies_Chris @I were right about that saddle

    Do they definitely publish submissions from individuals there too?

    I think they do, but it seems odd you're not up there yet, 2 days after submission.

    Have you had an acknowledgement letter? Mine came from an Amy Kerr, who is an assistant to the Committee. It just said the submission would be treated under this standard policy. Then later that day it appeared on their website.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. Frenchy
    Member

    Thanks, I got a similar email earlier this afternoon.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

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    “The Scottish Government now needs to take on board the advice from ourselves and others to make improvements to the Climate Change Plan. There is a real opportunity to develop a sustainable transport system in Scotland, and it is important that this consultation phase hasn’t all been for nothing.”

    "

    http://transformscotland.org.uk/blog/2017/02/10/climate-plan-priorities-fail-on-equalities-health-congestion-and-the-economy/

    Posted 7 years ago #
  24. Colonies_Chris
    Member

    @DdF; Yes, I got an acknowledgement email on Friday, exactly as you described.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  25. crowriver
    Member

    "it is important that this consultation phase hasn’t all been for nothing."

    Well we can but hope.

    The signs are not encouraging. This is a government that ignored the recommendations of its own cross-party commission on local government taxation, choosing instead to simply tinker in minor ways with the iniquitous Council Tax.

    We shall see.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  26. neddie
    Member

    Dang.

    Forgot to mention APD & how aviation fuel should be taxed in the same way as road/rail fuel (or higher)

    Also forgot to mention road pricing.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  27. mgj
    Member

    Sustainable and growth should not be in the same sentence.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    "Sustainable and growth should not be in the same sentence."

    Is that an essay question?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  29. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Sustainable and growth should not be in the same sentence.

    Well, the outer envelope of this proposition is the second law of thermodynamics. The ultimate state of the universe will be utter frozen chaos. So nothing at all is sustainable.

    That said, we've had growing human populations living in ways that are temporarily sustainable for some time. I'm irrationally fond of humanity and would like it to continue for a while. We can't go on the way we're going for much longer, but I think we can go on with change that would be quite insignificant in recent historical context.

    I hope so anyway.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  30. chdot
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    Sustainable and Growth are words that mean different things to different people!

    Some politicians/civil servants seem to believe that putting them in the same sentence is enough!

    Growth as simplistically measured by/for GDP is clearly part of the problem.

    Political use of the word sustainable seems to look no further than generating electricity from wind and water.

    Most people's definition of sustainable growth/development would not include building more/bigger roads.

    I once went to a talk by Malcolm Slessor (he wrote a variety of books including Politics of Environment: Guide to Scottish Thought and Action)

    It was about the time of the Club of Rome's The Limits to Growth

    Someone asked a simple question - "do you believe in growth".

    The answer was straightforward but allowed more questions to be pondered -

    'Well I have children, I wouldn't like it if they didn't grow'.

    Posted 7 years ago #

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