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"A fall in the cost of motoring has encouraged more people to travel by car"

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  1. chdot
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  2. gembo
    Member

    Walking in the city centre of Edinburgh is great, faster than driving. Nicer along George street and princess st gardens. They should make it a car free zone but let buses and trams in. What are they scared of? You do not get anywhere trying to last everyone. The current appeasement of motorists is already described as a war on motorists fuh crissakes

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. chdot
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    Stagecoach have confirmed that over 1000 cars were parked at Halbeath P&R on Saturday (17 June), and the good weather over the weekend had a positive effect on the number of people travelling to both Glasgow and Edinburgh.

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    https://www.fifechamber.co.uk/news/2017/june/pr-sites-cut-congestion-summer

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. Ed1
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    I supose one plus of the congestion is more people may shop local and work from home may reduce friverlous journeys. I like cycling in to the center when congestion it gives me a feeling of superiority to cycle past cars taxis and buses

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. Rosie
    Member

    @Ed1 - Dunno about shop local. They'll drive to shopping centres like Craigleith. How unutterably depressing those places are - just shops and car-parking space, no street life of any kind.

    Since driving in the city centre should be a privilege, not a right, those retractable posts that block restricted access places should spring up in front of vehicles that don't have a special sensory device, which of course would only be issued to public transport, and commercial vehicles from 7pm - 7am.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    This is what we're up against;

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/25/sadiq-khans-war-against-cars-ideological-attack-freedom/

    (Paywall, but you get one article a week for free.)

    However many there are of them, trains and buses take pre-programmed routes devised by teams of central planners. They don’t allow for spontaneity. The individual is subsumed into the utilitarian cost-benefit calculations of whoever decides who deserves the convenience of travel.

    The world socialist is thrown around a lot, often inaccurately, but this is quite literally socialism. The public transport system is designed for the benefit of the lumpen mass, not the unique preferences of any particular person. By contrast, “car dependency” is actually a freely made choice to maximise mobility.

    Presumably he thinks bicycles are objects of libertarian beauty, given that you don't even need to kowtow to Saudi despots to make them go.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. neddie
    Member

    Socialism is when the roads are paid for by the general public, no matter how much you use them

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. Rosie
    Member

    Motoring is sold as spontaneity and freedom. You see advertisements of flash car speeding solitary through the Highlands or maybe on some bendy Italian road to a villa. However of course most motoring isn't that - it's a commuting chore, or a packhorse to the supermarket.

    There's an advert that's on a lot now (can't remember what car) where the suburban cool dad takes his sneering teenage daughter to school & impresses her peers. Then as a recompense for her refusal to smack knuckles, he's sat-navved to a new location. A play with a toy as compensation. It's a fairly unheroic vision.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. neddie
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    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. Rosie
    Member

    @neddie_h - That's the one. I quite enjoy that advert - better than the sexy couples racing through the Italian alps.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. crowriver
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    This is the iconic driving scene for urban motoring AFAIC:

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    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. paddyirish
    Member

    @crowriver

    superb!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. gembo
    Member

    Michael Douglas loses it on the LA freeway traffic jam at the start of falling down.

    Ends on pier at I think Santa Monica which is same pier that features in lalaland.

    Posted 6 years ago #

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