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“All new UK cars to have speed limiters by 2022 under EU plans”
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Posted 6 years ago #
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I think I’ve already got one. It cuts in at 131 mph. I’ve not checked.
Posted 6 years ago # -
A full on/off switch for the [speed limiter] system is also envisaged, but this would lapse every time the vehicle is restarted
Oh dear, that's not good. A complete sop.
What's the first thing someone who habitually speeds will do when they get in the car?
1. Press clutch or check gear in neutral.
2. Start engine.
3. Switch off speed limiter.Item 3 will become as "automatic" as item 1.
Posted 6 years ago # -
BBC article: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47715415
Some nice straw-man arguments from the president of the AA. Let us not forget why the AA were formed in the first place: their whole raison d'être was to warn motorists of speed traps.
AA president Edmund King said there was no doubt that new in-car technology could save lives, adding there was "a good case" for autonomous emergency braking to be fitted in all cars.
"When it comes to intelligent speed adaptation, the case is not so clear," he said. "The best speed limiter is the driver's right foot.
"The right speed is often below the speed limit - for example, outside a school with children about - but with ISA, there may be a temptation to go at the top speed allowed."
Mr King added: "Dodgem cars are all fitted with speed limiters, but they still seem to crash."
So basically, with a speed limiter fitted, people are more likely to speed outside schools... Yeah, right...
Posted 6 years ago # -
Also, why is the BBC article in the "Business" section and not in the "Tech" section?
It's almost as if speeding were fundamental to the operation of business.
Posted 6 years ago # -
neddie, It's not great but I wonder how insurance would handle it. Given the car would also be recording details for use in the event of a crash it would be a matter of fact that the driver had willingly circumvented a safety system along with speed at time of incident. My optimistic view is that an insurance company would deny liability in such circumstances rendering drivers entirely liable for damage caused.
Posted 6 years ago # -
The problem is, it's "too late" after the crash. The speeding vehicle has already done the intimidating of vulnerable road users by then.
Plus, the Police can already infer vehicle speeds after crashes, even today - using indicators like skid marks, CCTV, etc.
Posted 6 years ago # -
"The best speed limiter is the driver's right foot."
Mr King presumably - and rather strangely - spends very little time on Britain's roads, otherwise he would be well aware that safe and responsible control of their vehicle's speed is a skill sadly lacking in the majority of drivers.
"...with ISA, there may be a temptation to go at the top speed allowed."
Of course drivers are never tempted to do that in the present self-regulation regime. Are they?
It's all sanctimonious BS. As is so much opinion offered in the 'debate' about speed, speeding, and speed limits.
Posted 6 years ago # -
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why we need to be able to speed in order to avoid a collision.
Posted 6 years ago #
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