“Presumably, if those orders are made correctly“
Yes but they might find a ‘smart’ lawyer willing to take the money to argue that something wasn’t done ‘correctly.’
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Scottish Govmt announces £10m for pop up cycle/walking lanes
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@chdot, indeed I'm sure they will.
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There have been signs announcing Victoria Street as a walking and cycling area thus closed to general traffic for a while now after the initial but ineffective placing of the planters. As I passed this evening, I was pleased to see that the street was indeed clear of vehicles. However, within about a minute not one, but two, private vehicles drove up past me. Why they left a vehicle-sized gap between the planters is beyond me if they actually want it closed.
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From council: "As 24/7 access for blue badge vehicles is permitted, a minimum of 3.5m carriageway will remain at all times."
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Ah. I was obviously too far away to spot the blue badges.
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They are hard to see sometimes...
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It's surprising it needs to be a through road for blue badge holders.
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Residents will get powers to banish through-traffic from local streets and councils will be prevented from building substandard cycle lanes under what Downing Street has billed as a revolution for cycling and walking in England.
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Raddisson have lost the taxi bay.
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George IV Bridge is a real botch up that suits nobody.
Novice cyclists may be lured by the nice safe lanes on Forrest Rd, but then dumped in a now narrow general traffic lane on George IV Br. Going South, they end up back in the Bristo Place mincer.
Bus users have lost the (admittedly usually parked-in) bus lane.
Pedestrians have gained a bit of space for distancing on George IV, but it isn't contiguous, so you would have to hop on and off the pavement to walk along. And the normally crowded section outside Greyfriars Bobby hasn't been improved.
And van drivers and lorries have lost most of the loading (that they never really legally had)
Cluster-burrach of a shambles!
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“Raddisson have lost the taxi bay.”
Good.
Often a conflict causer.
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Happy to see Geo4 lanes going in but surely there's not going to be much Geo4 bridge traffic if they can't drive down mound (bus gate?), down ryl mile or up to castle?
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Article on Low Traffic Neighbourhoods coming up on Newsnight.
https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1288552794090278919?s=19
"TONIGHT: As part of Boris Johnson’s obesity strategy, the government is supporting a national programme of Low Traffic Neighbourhoods.
They’ll make for cleaner, safer streets but will they shift the traffic elsewhere?
Culture Editor Stephen Smith reports.
#Newsnight"
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Fairly short piece but the example LTN shown in Brixton shows what can be done quickly with just a few planters. Left me feeling that, as usual, Edinburgh has missed the boat.
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"Covid parking restrictions are 'business genocide'"
Cue lots of pictures of grumpy-looking shop keepers outside their shops in Morningside and Bruntsfield.
I have spent tens of thousands of pounds in the shops of Morningside over the past 15 years, and I have never once taken a car there. The main reason I haven't been into Morningside since March is because the narrow pavements mean that safe social distancing has been (up to now) impractical.
I suspect I am not alone.
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I have spent tens of thousands of pounds in the shops of Morningside
Two trips to IJ Mellis? Wow.
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Call me a cynical embittered moaning wingnut but I honestly think the best thing we can do in Edinburgh is miss out the delivery phase and go straight to the inquiry into failure.
Save a whole lot of grief.
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Two trips to Mellis and two requests to be called a wing nut.
I think this cut to the inquiry line is actually worthwhile and also a way to create what is needed.
Set up the inquiry -but give it its conclusions at the start too,. 1. Failure was due to a hostile climate ACTION engage Webby, Cookie Monster and Mac The Moan (I will tackle webby next saturday)
2. Council officers time was absorbed by consultations and inquiries ACTION statement by Chief Exec that all consultations and inquires have produced enough data the time now is for action
3. Actual access to bikes was restricted - ACTION continue to class bike shops as essential sevices - Wee Nicky to get the vouchers for repairs - managed by The Bike Station etc
4. Too many council officers obstructive ACTION make Cycling Officers Key workers
5. CYcling Tsar found to be Missing In Action - ACTION appoint Chris Boardman (Maybe to help the existing people find their way?)
Etc.
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@gembo
Going straight to the conclusion of the inquiry into failure is genius.
There comes a point in every organisation's life when disablers and recorders and critics and communicators and thinkers get the upper hand on doers. At this point the doers must be ushered into a room for coffee and cake and the rest of the organisation burnt to the ground.
I have lifted this text from my LinkedIn profile and it will form part of my application to be Chief Exec of the council.
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@IWRATS I will vote for you in the election for Chief Exec.
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Someone needs to tell John MacLellan to do a bit more reading of (1) business studies and (2) his own government’s cycling proposals.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-53584305
I know Mr Chaudhry. I buy chocolates from him twice a year. He blocks the narrow pavement between the shop and the bus stop with his flowers year-round.
If he thinks his customers are parking at Churchill he needs to say where exactly. And hire a cargo bike delivery person sorry he already employs his daughter she'll be fine.
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"When my customers want to collect their flower arrangements which can be quite heavy, especially for the elderly, are they expected to carry these items up and down the road?"
I buy chocolates from him once a year, and flowers once a year as well. I have never driven in order to patronise his shop, which I otherwise quite liked. Last time I collected chocs and flowers I was on my bike. The time before that I think I was on the bus. Presumably all the passing trade of all the shops isn't from anyone who lives in Morningside. I hadn't realised that all the shops were built after the horseless carriage had been invented and after everyone had obtained one.
I expanded on Twitter but had these measures been in place when the roads were quiet, they would now be the new normal.
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Toy shop owner : "
It looks like a warzone
". I'm pretty sure that extra traffic cones aren't the usual sign of armed conflict. Is he complaining they've coned off the zigzag lines where nobody should be parking, irrespective of cones?Posted 3 years ago # -
@Stickman
I observe that the councillor's article goes to he heart of the politics of the UK of GB&NI. The key to success is to be in opposition regardless of what post you actually hold.
Mr McLellan mocks Mr Johnson, his own party leader, and opposes the SNP-Labour coalition despite coordinating activities with Labour through their joint enterprise Scotland in Union.
The SNP councillors are a bit lost because they have no one to oppose.
The Scottish government is opposed to Westminster rule and likes that position so has given up on independence in favour of theatrical gurning.
The Labour MP for Edinburgh South is opposed to the SNP despite being a member of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition to Her Majesty's Government.
The Conservative party made a very bad mistake by catching the car they were barking at: the EU. This meant they had to take responsibility, nobody fancied that so Vote Leave penetrated, subverted and took control of that body.
The Vote Leave government will soon have to find someone to rail against and it will probably be the Irish and the Scots.
So it goes.
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@Cyclops
I already have a rule that anyone who says 'magic money tree' has to read this publication by the Bank of England.
I propose a second rule that anyone who compares anything to a warzone is instantly transported to an actual warzone. My grandfather told me that the smell alone is utterly terrifying.
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The wording of the BBC article is stretching a point.
First off, we have the headline 'business genocide'. Then we're told shop owners say it's a 'war zone' and a plan for 'genocide'.
The cones are to give people room to walk along 'street gutters' without being 'knocked down by cars'. That sounds more like a war on pedestrians. Chaudhry says 'sacrifices' will need to be made, and then we get 'genocide' again. Nairn says his business was 'gasping for breath'. A wee torture reference. And he says it's a 'war zone' and CEC has some ulterior 'world view'. Drummond says if the fellow business 'die then I am dead too'. Ness talks about 'arterial routes', and thinks Morningside looks 'like a war zone'.
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Gembo’s pal again again.
Beginning to wish the ski guide had abandoned her on that alp. Tabloid tripe funded by TV license. I doubt the interviewees come up with this hyperbole unprompted.
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Clearly shopkeepers have problems - internet, Covid, perception that most shoppers arrive by car and park outside their shop.
Now they are drawing attention to ‘you can’t park here’ AND alienating other shoppers (especially ones who might like the idea of a walkable Morningside) by showing their hostile side!
Can’t win really.
Don’t suppose CEC has put in extra cycle parking anywhere?
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McLellan's article is nothing but negativity. Nothing positive to suggest whatsoever.
And people eventually turn away from persistently negative people. Let's hope so...
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