We can't win here. If we engage with the democratic processes and complete the surveys we are dismissed as 'the cycling lobby'. If we don't then the motoring lobby/status quo wins.
We need to turn the silent majority into more active contributors.
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Scottish Govmt announces £10m for pop up cycle/walking lanes
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Mr Cole-Hamilton and Ms Jardine are both opposition politicians. Neither has any real hope of serving in an administration so their survival depends on appearing to oppose all those who do govern.
So Mr Cole-Hamilton wears a gas mask and holds pro-motoring rallies and there is no contradiction. He is helping his constituents to oppose things and that is his job.
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I'm intrigued by the idea that the prospect of maintaining the current traffic situation at Drum Brae/Corstorphine could be seen as "A glimmer of hope".
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@Morningsider: one of the leaders of the Craigmount group said that non-residents of the area should not be commenting on the LTN plans. He then later said that he should be allowed to object to changes to St John’s Road because he drives along it, and that residents there shouldn’t expect to be listened to over others because “arterial”.
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@Stickman - simply good old British common sense in action!
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Baby boomer entitlement - The force is strong young Padwan
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" these proposals will actually increase car journey times "
Weren't the Lib Dems one of the main proponents of widespread 20mph speed limits in Edinburgh?
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“Weren't the Lib Dems ... “
Different people
Different times
Remember Councillor Gordon Mackenzie?
This is only 8 years ago-
http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5303
(When they were in power)
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Remember Councillor Gordon Mackenzie?
I genuinely don't...
I presume Alex Cole-Hamilton is in favour of lots of interventions and changes which "actually increase car journey times". It's not completely obvious to me why these changes are different.
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Just popped to the shops - 32 cars/vans/taxis parked directly on Morningside Road between Waitrose and Morningside Station. Anyone telling you that no-one can park in Morningside is a liar.
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How many parked legally?
(I don’t how many - if any - loading/parking bays there are now.)
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@chdot - some were parked legally on single yellow lines, some in loading bays and a couple clearly on double yellows.
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Ta
Just some complainers can’t park outside their own shops??
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https://twitter.com/derryckreid/status/1312446899018887168?s=21
Just written a long email to the Edinburgh #SpacesForPeople team. As a committed cyclist (I sold my car 3 years ago to cycle / run to work) I support consultative & proportionate cycle schemes; the plans for Lanark Road are neither.
He explains his reasons in the thread.
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TL/DR, it's about his ability to park. Surprise surprise.
And he may have sold "his" car, but the household still own at least one.
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Park on road outside his property?
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Cycled down Comiston Road yesterday. Was expecting narrow lanes in which I would have to descend more slowly than I would normally choose. Not so. Really impressed. I was even able to nip in and out of the lane in order to pass a slower moving cyclist. I admit Sunday afternoon is not the best time to test with respect to traffic volumes...
Did have one alarming moment when the driver of a police car with its lights and sirens going drove the wrong side of a traffic island in order to pass cars on his side of the road - I wasn't anticipating the maneuver and would have slowed down and pulled over more if I had. I don't have a problem with that driver doing what he did under those circumstances.
I need to go up the hill that way and see what that is like.
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"one of the leaders of the Craigmount group said that non-residents of the area should not be commenting on the LTN plans."
@Stickman did you spot that the person running the @east_craigs anti-LTN account doesn't live in the area? He/she used to live there so presumably knows all the shortcuts...
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Going up Comiston Road is pretty good.
Others have mentioned it before, but I will too because I used it yesterday: be careful as you approach the t-junction of Braid Hills Road. The marked cycle lane narrows and then disappears at the pedestrian crossing island, at which car drivers are wont to try to overtake ('twas ever thus). You really need to do a lifesaver check beforehand.
The red torpedo affords me a very definite amount of road presence and bullyability, but if I were trundling uphill on my Elephant Bike for example my spidey senses would be turned up to 11.
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I'm pretty sure that the person that runs the east_c***gs account is also d hun**r 100
He keeps calling everyone by their first names, even the anon accounts! (mild doxxing, if you ask me)
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Only downside I've found with the Comiston Road changes, going North, is that at Pentland View you are expected to sweep left then right at 20+ mph into what seems to be an artificially narrowed lane which is overshadowed by plants so plenty of opportunity for ice, leaf mulch etc.
I've generally skipped that little section as there's a natural joining point a little further down at the wider section which is a straight line. I happened to be in the car yesterday and saw another cyclist do exactly the same thing.
Clearly it's a desire line and I'm hoping the fact that as it is still orange bollards at the narrow section, means that this will be addressed.... fingers crossed.
As a pedestrian I have found the extended space a bit well "bitty", in some cases only lasting for 2 parking spaces. I think it appears very broken up due to the step off the kerb and back on again to make use of the space - as a build out pavement I'm sure it would "flow" better......
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@twinspark: Only downside I've found with the Comiston Road changes, going North, is that at Pentland View you are expected to sweep left then right at 20+ mph into what seems to be an artificially narrowed lane which is overshadowed by plants so plenty of opportunity for ice, leaf mulch etc.
AFAIK that section - from about half way along the Buckstone shops and north as far as the end of the Pentland View bus stop box - is unchanged since before the new infrastructure was put in place (apart perhaps from some of the paint having been renewed and the dashed boundary to the cycle lane made solid). They'd have to shave a fair bit off the footway build-out outside the bathroom & tile shop to straighten the bike lane. Or else build out the footway the other side of Pentland View and take back a bit more space from the non-cycle-lane part of the carriageway (which wouldn't actually be a bad idea now I come to think of it).
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Check the description under the photograph - another piece of "quality journalism" from the EEN (who perhaps should learn to remove internal notes before publishing articles).
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That's quite a howler.
Obvioulsy the concern is that people will be knocked over by stupid cyclists and that blind people will find it almost impossible to navigate
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@Niall A - nice spot. For the record:
Floating bus stops are positioned between cycle lanes and the roadway Description:part of the spaces for people initiative means that we have 'floating' bus stops (ie there's a cycle lane between the pavement/bus stop and the road where the bus will actually stop) We've got a couple of twitter pix - but it would be good to get our own. George IV Bridge seems to be the best illustration of them.... Obvioulsy the concern is that people will be knocked over by stupid cyclists and that blind people will find it almost impossible to navigate..... cycle lanes, deliveroo, passangers, give way, walkers, bikes, lothian buses
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Somebody screenshot that and get it all over Twitter...
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@fimm
@Stickman has done this. Most people won't see anything wrong with it.
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Did it myself:
https://twitter.com/Wisob1/status/1313407125469761537
do your bit, twitter people.Posted 3 years ago # -
Our nursery just sent out a mailshot alerting us to the plans for Lanark Rd.
Until now I had no idea anything was planned though I've hardly been paying attention. I assumed covid improvement season ended months ago!
Assuming it goes ahead I bet it will be a complete surprise to almost everybody. Nursery will object on the grounds that it complicates drop off and pick up (they only have a small driveway and probably like 50 cars at each end of the day). Not quite sure how I feel about that. I doubt many of the kids are coming from a house that would be close enough to benefit much from the scheme itself.
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