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City transport leader Gordon Mackenzie said: "The council is delighted that cycling figures for the authority are, overall, on the increase. It is crucial that other schools follow the lead of the Edinburgh Steiner School."
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Mmm
http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Capital-pupils-urged-to-saddle.6700411.jp
What does "mmm" mean? Possibly that you were eating cake whilst typing, but I suspect something else...
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What does "mmm" mean?
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It means I need some time think about what I think and whether I should write it all down here...
Clearly cake would help. JUST REMEMBERED - there's a bit of Christmas cake left.
In short -
Getting more people to cycle - good.
Steiner school's efforts - good (some keen parents + supportive school).
CEC Transport councillor saying CEC should do more/better - interesting...
There is a long standing disconnect between 'policy' and 'delivery' over encouraging more children to cycle to school and also provision of formal Cycle Training.
I could go on...
But then I have done for many years with minimal impact.
It sure ain't rocket science.
This IS Edinburgh.
Free cake for children if they pedal to school? (odometers required as evidence)
"Free cake for children if they pedal to school?"
There have been various schemes!
Breakfasts too.
Chdot's mild on-line persona can be quite ferocious on this theme. He took issue with the council on this at a spokes meeting I went to, and I didn't think it could be the same person!
There have been various schemes!
Gembo is currently running one to dispose of an unwanted surplus of family Christmas cake.
"can be quite ferocious on this theme"
That's what 12 years of frustration does...
Yes the man at the Spokes meeting is the same one quoted in the Evening News.
Not that I'm suggesting it's his fault - he's only been doing 'transport' for a year or so.
BUT OF COURSE -
It shouldn't really be a Transport story - but Education (and now Children and Families) stick to the line that 'it's up to parents how their children get to school'.
Also - 'Cycle Training is a matter for Head Teachers' (and their responsibility to find 'resources' - staff, volunteers etc.).
Which in turn means that a tiny number of (Edinburgh) schools do Cycle Training in school time. Those that do, understand that learning to ride a bike properly is highly educational and ticks all sorts of 'personal development' and 'health' boxes.
that's a lot of italics :)
gembo/kaputnik/chdot - unwanted Christmas cake? unheard of. happy to help though....
we made our own cake this year for the first time and it just disappeared as we all said 'why didn't we ever do this before??'. BUT, I just found a forgotten (homemade) christmas pudding (we made quite a few), which has been greeted with great enthusiasm.
Can anyone tell me asap if it is legal for kids under 16 to ride on pavements? I think it is but need to be sure.
Down with cake
Can anyone tell me asap if it is legal for kids under 16 to ride on pavements?
No it is not. Until they are under the age of criminal responsibility, at which point the parents are potentially the law breaker for letting them.
Anyone riding a bike on a footway (pavement) in Scotland is committing an offence under the provisions of Section 129(5) of the Roads (Scotland) Act 1984. These offences are usually enforced through a police officer issuing a fixed penalty notice.
Police would normally use their discretion when dealing with children cycling on the pavement - i.e. not do anything.
While fixed penalty notices can be issued to those of an age of criminal responsibility (i.e. 8+ in Scotland), the sanctions for failing to pay such a notice are normally enforced through the adult justice system. It is difficult to envisage a situation where failure to pay a fixed penalty notice issued for cycling offences is enforced through the children's hearing system. In practice this means that sanctions for cycling offences normally apply only to adults.
Thought I would clarify as the advice on the Bike-for-all website is correct - but refers to English legislation which is slightly different.
Morningsider
"age of criminal responsibility (i.e. 8+ in Scotland)"
It was going to go up to 12 in Scotland was it not? Did this happen, or is it still going to happen?
cb - the Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Act 2010, Section 52 establishes that no-one aged under 12 can be prosecuted for an offence. This is yet to be enacted.
However, the age of criminal responsibility will remain at 8, i.e. anyone aged under 8 cannot be guilty of an offence, as set out in Section 41 of the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995.
So you can commit an offence aged 8+, but in the future you will not be prosecuted for it. You could be referred to a children's panel though. I'm sure that probably makes some sort of sense to legal types!
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