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  • Started 12 years ago by Stepdoh
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  1. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Sorry to hear about your incident, Smashface.

    "I said that the bike appeared to be fine but the leg warmer (all I had noticed at that point) was £30 or so but she gave me a sob story about not having any money."

    ..which is the point that you should have asked for her insurance details. This would have had numerous benefits - I suspect money may then have been found or obtained if this was what you want, also gives you more time to check yourself and the bike over, also a chance to note her reg number. Contemporaneous photos with a phone or whatever of clothing, bike, car could help if liability is later denied (not unusual).

    At the end of the day, if she knocked you into the opposite carriageway, you could easily have been killed or seriously injured either in the fall or from oncoming traffic. You had nothing to apologise for, she was in the wrong, you certainly shouldn't be out of pocket or worrying about potential damage to your bike.

    Glad to see you've had a response from the police, hopefully they can elicit her insurance details from her and pass them on.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  2. Neil
    Member

    @darkerside that's a very good link. It seems I did just about everything wrong!

    Posted 8 years ago #

  3. chdot
    Admin

    "It seems I did just about everything wrong!"

    NO!

    That's the nature of shock.

    Presume she got one too - but no physical injury, which will have contributed to your 'vagueness'.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  4. chdot
    Admin

    There weren't any car numbers around when your brain's coping mechanisms evolved.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  5. Darkerside
    Member

    Again, what chdot said. You're the one that's just been hit by multiple tonnes of metal - there's a reason cyclists count as vulnerable road users.

    As an example; when I was hit (relatively gently), I thought I'd record the driver's details on my phone. Managed to get my phone out of my bag, but couldn't operate it at all. Couldn't even unlock it. The massive adrenaline dump after a crash is designed to help you run away from tigers; not remember legal advice!

    Take half an hour now to write everything down, sign and date it, get a witness to sign and date it, then at least if you decide to take things further at a later point you've got a statement you can refer back to. Take photos of everything. Get a bike shop you trust to check over the bike.

    It's either her insurance company paying for damages, or she has no insurance and will have to stump up the cash herself. In either case, I have no sympathy for the driver!

    Posted 8 years ago #

  6. Edinburgh Cycle Training
    Member

    You have my thoughts and sympathies @Smashfacethe

    Glad to hear you are OK, albeit shaken. Hope you can get some recompense too as this was clearly someone elses fault!

    After my crash last month, I got The Cycle Service to check my bike out. They did so quickly and (I think) reasonably cost wise.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  7. Neil
    Member

    Thanks. I wrote everything I could remember in the email to the police. I also went through it when I called 101. Police coming round tomorrow evening.

    Maybe when they come round I should do the Family Guy knee joke, clutching my knee and saying ooow aaaaah ooow for an overly long time.

    My 2yo daughter is obsessed with "scabby knee's". She'll be delighted about all this.

    @bikeability I always use the cycle service. I called them earlier to say about popping in this evening.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  8. amir
    Member

    Good luck with the police. It would be good if at least they talk to the driver. Hopefully she's learnt a valuable lesson and even better that she (or her insurance company) stumps up.

    Meanwhile milk the sympathy for all its worth!

    Posted 8 years ago #

  9. SRD
    Moderator

    Gah. I'm moving down Polwarth gardens, wanting to make a right. Shoulder check a couple of times, car behind is keeping back, so I swing my arm out and prepare to move out. VOOM. She pulls straight through me as I do a last check. Thank you FLO3 VNN. I wouldn't have minded if she'd overtaken when I was waiting, but not after I signalled.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  10. unhurt
    Member

    Got a decent email response from Roofing & Building Supply, for which I thanked them. Fingers crossed the outcome is one safer driver.

    "Although disappointed to receive your e-mail, like any complaint as a responsible employer, we will investigate accordingly

    I will have a meeting with the driver and discuss your complaint in detail and I will take any appropriate action that is deemed necessary.

    I am genuinely sorry that you were required to contact us and hope that you will accept that we have taken your complaint seriously."

    Posted 8 years ago #

  11. BaseCut
    Member

    Did anyone else encounter the Waitrose home delivery van driving east along the NEPN by Ainslie Park at about 5.30 last night. Was quite bizarre.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  12. chdot
    Admin

    Was on Twitter (so you didn't imagine it!)

    Posted 8 years ago #

  13. Snowy
    Member

    Oh dear. Sat-nav cock-up?

    Posted 8 years ago #

  14. Snowy
    Member

    But while we're here and talking about Waitrose I'd like to nominate the Waitrose delivery van doing about 45mph down Warrender Park Road yesterday afternoon at school-coming-out time. I can only assume they didn't have any shopping in the back because they were nearly taking off at the speed cushions.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  15. Roibeard
    Member

    The council may be attempting to improve the standards for the city's taxi and private hire drivers:

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15818

    Robert

    Posted 8 years ago #

  16. fimm
    Member

    Just remembered.
    Taxi blocking the west-bound cycle lane at Haymarket this morning.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  17. Chug
    Member

    Speeding as victimless crime? Interesting article from Beeb about D&G council's complacency. Wonder what would have happened if it had been 60,000 cases of theft?

    Council speeding figures

    Posted 8 years ago #

  18. davidsonsdave
    Member

    I stopped whilst filtering past cars at Murieston Crescent to advise the driver of a silver SUV that one of the rear/brake lights was out. It took him a while to react as he was busy watching tv on his in-car entertainment system despite moving forward. I assume there is a way to override the automatic safety-cut out on these things?

    Posted 8 years ago #

  19. Neil
    Member

    Police came round last night. They were very nice and didn't make me feel at all like I was wasting their time. They said, as expected, that there was little they could do without a registration number but said that it was worth reporting and logging it since there was the slim possibility that the driver may have reported it in which case the incident numbers would be linked and it would be possible to access her insurance via my insurer using the incident number.

    They laughed when I relayed the woman's "blind spot" excuse. She clearly didn't really understand what a blind spot was and thought it was just "anywhere she wasn't looking"....like out of the side window before turning onto the main road.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  20. dougal
    Member

    "A BUSY road has been closed after a lorry collided into the back of a pub."

    Silly pub!

    Posted 8 years ago #

  21. Darkerside
    Member

    Glad you got some helpful police folk.

    Did anything come of scouting out the route and trying to identify the car?

    Posted 8 years ago #

  22. Neil
    Member

    Nah, unfortunately not. I couldn't see the car, and there are no businesses or other cctv with line of sight of that junction. Hilariously, I almost skidded out on a wet manhole cover turning off Dalkeith Road to have a look around the area.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  23. Snowy
    Member

    @dougal Probably ought to go in the sentient beings thread. A fine example.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  24. Rob
    Member

    The driver who hesitated, then decided to play "follow the leader" through a pinch point on his way up McDonald Road. Let's just say I'm glad I have disc brakes.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  25. CJC
    Member

    Last night was chaos on Leith Walk, and the surrounding streets. Miles of queue, presumably caused by the lorry driver who drove into the pub on Calton Road, which wasn't helped by drivers ignoring all the rules and doing what they wanted.

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    Posted 8 years ago #

  26. kaputnik
    Moderator

    The people driving up/down London Road between Abbeyhill and Meadowbank in the dark, the tipping rain and 50mph+ winds who are going fast enough to trip the speed camera. Taxed, licensed, insured and otherwise law abiding I presume.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  27. Greenroofer
    Member

    Bit of a cracker this morning...

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    I think an observant driver would have noticed the headlights of oncoming traffic shining off the verge and the cars coming round the corner, and might therefore have delayed their overtaking manoeuvre until that oncoming traffic had cleared. The driver of SP57 XAU and I were both lucky that it was an alert and cautious taxi coming round the corner and not a Dalton's Demolition monster skip truck.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  28. threefromleith
    Member

    That was scary! What possesses people to overtake just before a corner where they can't see what's coming the other way?

    Some people seem determined to kill themselves and any unfortunate innocent party who gets caught up in their reckless stupidity :-(

    Posted 8 years ago #

  29. Snowy
    Member

    That particular car has got previous with me, too. Someone ought to tie a large cowbell to the bumper to warn cyclists there's a dangerous driver approaching.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  30. wingpig
    Member

    After a few "dunno what you're talking about - we checked the CCTV and everything's fine" wiggles-out from Lothian Buses, I finally got a complaint to lodge:

    "...we had requested and subsequently viewed the CCTV footage from the bus number provided and disappointingly an incident that you have described can clearly be seen taking place. I have taken the opportunity to pass on your comments onto the depot where the driver is based and they will take the appropriate action to ensure such an incident does not recur."

    Posted 8 years ago #

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