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BUG Struggle

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  • Started 13 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
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  1. We've got an extensive (and convoluted and difficult to use) intranet here at work. It's a massive organisation, with thousands employed here in Edinburgh and around the rest of the UK. There's a huge potential audience for that intranet. And there is virtually nothing on cycling on there.

    It's odd. We have pages and pages on sustainability and green travel and so on. But it's all public transport or car sharing or regular 'no travel week' (meaning don't travel for meetings, not don't travel to work). The other week when the police bike marking was happening it struck me that there was no easy way of conveying the message to those who might be interested in my office, and given it was happening in Festival Square and the wealth of bike racks we have here, it's something that might have got people interested.

    So at the start of the week I contacted our Travel department about the possibility of setting up a BUG. I offered to take the lead, to do the groundwork, basically to let them take all the credit. I even threw in the 'sustainable' line in the hope of triggering a CSR response. I got a reply the following day. Our 'Smart and Responsible' department is the place to contact, oh and look, here's a link on the intranet to a cycling story they ran. The link? From June, on it being National Bike Week. There was one other story I came across. From last year. On it being National Bike Week.

    The gap is ENORMOUS. I've contacted 'Smart and Responsible', but as yet had nothing back. I'm contemplating making a 'new site' request to our IT people to set up a specific 'Cycling' page, and just seeing what happens.

    I just really would have thought that an organisation with 3,000 people in this building alone would be more interested in cost savings through health benefits, and ticking that 'lower your carbon emissions' box, than it is (It's been announced on our intranet today that we're very highly ranked for lowering carbon emissions...).

    This is just a moan really. Not much anyone can do to help, I've just got to navigate our cumbersome internal processes. Which are most annoying.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    Don't give up.

    Tell them about http://www.cyclingscotland.org/our-projects/award-schemes/cycle-friendly-employer

    (Maybe ask CS for advice...)

    Posted 13 years ago #
  3. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Anth, how is your organisation for recycling? I seem to recall that it was doing pretty well. Your facilities management team might be best placed to manage a BUG, but you'll probably need the buy-in of your IT department to set up an internal forum and to moderate it.

    Can you find out if there is a sustainability working group for your building perhaps, with an agenda you could invite yourself into? It might be worth looking for anything to do with ISO14001. I'm surprised your travel team wasn't interested - but travel management (contracts) is sometimes disconnected from travel and subsistence (finance), while environmental and sustainability aspects are often bolt-ons to be handled by yet another team.

    The BUG at my work is small, no doubt about that, but it's been going for nearly ten years now. Edinburgh University has one of the best BUGs I've seen, and has clout and engagement that ours never has.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. wingpig
    Member

    It could be worse: you could have a cycling club with an intranet chat forum.

    Who was it that instigated/nagged for/approved the giant bike rack? Is there much inter-office-within-city travel which could easily be done by (office) bicycle rather than taxi (or shuttlebus, as at ours)?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  5. nearefare
    Member

    Our BUG is currently just a distribution list, Had considered using http://scotbug.com/ but there were a few security concerns , hopefully fixed in the next release. There must be other existing BUG forums that can be taped into ?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  6. SRD
    Moderator

    I've tried to join our BUG and either it doesn't actually have any activity or I've failed to join...not sure which

    Posted 13 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    "
    The company has found that each cyclist, not requiring a car parking space, saves the company £9,900.

    "

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4169#post-43358

    Posted 13 years ago #
  8. Kirst
    Member

    But you can't cycle when it's raining!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  9. DaveC
    Member

    We have wiki at my place of work. You can make up any pages you want, I have done.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  10. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Bit of thread archaeology here, but I'm looking for some feedback on scotbug.com . It's one of the contenders I'm checking out to replace the one my work has at present.

    Security concerns were mentioned before: were these resolved? Also, I noticed that @scotbug is now a year in the doldrums, and the events page on scotbug.com is similarly neglected, which makes me curious about the level of caretaking going on behind the scenes. I don't want to recommend a BUG host that'll become obsolete. I also don't want to register my work just to see how the site looks and functions: there's no 'guided tour' option.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    Well there are a lot of companies with bugs -

    http://www.scotbug.com/buglist/list-of-scotbugs/3451

    Must be some people on here who work at one.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  12. kaputnik
    Moderator

    We set up then abandoned Scotbug due to it appearing to be largely dead / on hiatus, and the requirement to have an external e-mail and internet access, a lot of our staff don't have this.

    We've set up something similar using an internal company collaboration site instead.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  13. bruce_mcadam
    Member

    I don't think the Scotbug website works. My employer is listed on it, but I've never managed to get an account set up and logged in.

    It will happily send password reminders to my e-mail address, but when I then try to log in it says my e-mail is not verified and the verification link never arrives.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  14. Greenroofer
    Member

    I set up a Scotbug site for my office. I found it a pain: you have to have a password every time you log in and the user interface is slow and clunky. In the end I moved to a site on our office SharePoint infrastructure, which was quicker and more flexible.

    It was useful when getting started because there are free resources like posters on there. I used the posters to advertise the BUG and used the memorable URL for the BUG as a route to get people to sign up. Every time someone signs up you get an email, so I harvested details from these to move the users to the SharePoint site. One other thing to consider is that I think CS use the site to monitor the number of people in the BUG: certainly when we've been talking to them about Cycle-Friendly employer stuff they refer to the number of BUG members they can see.

    The ScotBUG site is no longer accessible from our work computers. It's not blocked by the company, it just doesn't work. I think it still works from home, but to be honest I don't use it any more so haven't bothered checking.

    If your company can provide an internal solution on something like SharePoint or they will let you access something like Yahoo Groups, then I'd go for those. I personally wouldn't recommend ScotBUG unless you have no alternative.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  15. cc
    Member

    I see that my employer is listed on that Scotbug page. I've been working here 23 years and have never heard of Scotbug before.
    We do have several internal mailing lists with "bug" in the name, which are used for occasional cycling-related announcements from On High. However the one time people started using one of these lists to swap cycling information and advice we were told to pipe down and stop mailing to the list because people were unsubscribing from it.
    These days whenever anyone at work asks about cycling I direct them straight to CCE.

    Posted 11 years ago #

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