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Mikael's about more than just the clothes

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  • Started 13 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
  • Latest reply from SRD

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  1. Okay, so I'm as happy as anyone to poke a bit of fun at Copenhagenize, and I do have to question his tactics sometimes, although its all based around promotion so that he can get into a position to do something like this.

    I'm sure many will still find fault. But 4,600 publicly funded bikes, for kids to ride to school in convoys. This is astonishingly good work.


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    Posted 13 years ago #
  2. steveo
    Member

    That's pretty cool and good work, shame he feel he has to be so abrasive to achieve this.

    Maybe when I move I'll have some space to grow a load of bamboo and make my own bamboo bike. The idea of growing my own bike frame appeals on many levels.

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  3. Stepdoh
    Member

    Guess you don't get traction without a bit of friction. Fantastic project though.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. DaveC
    Member

    Yeh I ditched him on Twitter months ago. He was beggining to get right on my nerves.

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  5. SRD
    Moderator

    shrill & abrasive & attention-seeking = doesn't do it for me. even with use of 'celebrity' to promote 'charity/good works'.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  6. Tom
    Member

    Hmm, good work but his is the only TED talk I've had to turn off half way through.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  7. Min
    Member

    What's a TED talk?

    I'm not sure how slagging off UK cyclists leads to building bike in Brazil but cool sounding project anyway.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  8. Roibeard
    Member

    http://www.ted.com/

    TED is a nonprofit devoted to Ideas Worth Spreading. It started out (in 1984) as a conference bringing together people from three worlds: Technology, Entertainment, Design. Since then its scope has become ever broader.

    A place to loose quite a few hours, assuming speedy enough broadband...

    Robert

    Posted 13 years ago #
  9. sallyhinch
    Member

    I have to say that without Copenhagen Cycle Chic I might still be insisting that all we needed was to man up and take the lane & never have seen the light about decent cycle infrastructure. Once I'd got onto that I discovered David Hembrow's blog & many others which are more serious and 'worthy' but the man is a marketing genius and I'm grateful to him for making me realise it wasn't that I was cycling all wrong, it's that cycling in this country was all wrong. Five years later I find myself involved in POP & the Cycling Embassy and I do to a certain extent owe it to him... So I forgive him his other foibles;

    tbh there are very few people in the world of cycle campaigning (myself included, the rest of POP of course excluded) who are entirely well-rounded, balanced or completely sane individuals, tho we might have been when we started.

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  10. SRD
    Moderator

    I find the focus on clothes rather superficial (and paradoxically consumerist). the bigger point about cycling as normal life is of course spot on.

    it just reminds me of julian assange and too many 'pop-stars' -- extreme behaviour/attitudes so as to court attention, and generate more income.

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  11. Like I said, "I'm sure many will still find fault" (nice to know I can be so right about many things, didn't realise so many would completely ignore the fact he's part of a project to get four thousand six hundred kids onto bikes in a single city though... :P )

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  12. gembo
    Member

    Nobody is perfect some people have impact despite themselves etc but we can thank our lucky stars that we're not as smart as we like to think we are

    Posted 13 years ago #
  13. Tom
    Member

    He's not actually got a role in the project as far as I can see. He made the initial suggestion and visits from time to time. Though he describes it as "our" project it looks like Sao Paulo's Education Secretariat and Parada Vital's project.

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  14. SRD
    Moderator

    @anth - your first para and most of the text of your post was about the '(self-)promotion', and that's what we took up. Maybe for once we stayed on topic.

    You seem to be arguing that the end justifies the means. I tend not to agree. And westerners doing 'projects' in developing countries is something I know a little about.

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